Most streetable full exhaust?
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I’m in TX where emissions are just a computer scan and not a visual so a tune takes care of that, and in a couple years my 01 will hit 25+ status and be exempt anyways.
How does a full Hooker long tube plus H pipe setup like the one you suggested compare to something like an American Racing LT, Y pipe, going to a Magnaflow/Borla/Corsa exhaust given the weekend warrior use case of the car?
How does a full Hooker long tube plus H pipe setup like the one you suggested compare to something like an American Racing LT, Y pipe, going to a Magnaflow/Borla/Corsa exhaust given the weekend warrior use case of the car?
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I never understood why people paid so much for cheap shiny pipe no one ever sees that will look like crap after 50 miles or so. Best option IMO is to run the factory exhaust system without the converter. Then put an electric dump (or 2) on it. This way you can open the dumps an let the car breath when racing, and then close them for OEM noise levels. Maybe consider running long tube headers if you want a performance bump instead. It will flow better than any after market exh kit and cost much less. You can also open the dumps slightly to tune how loud you want the exhaust.
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In your shoes, based on what you are after, I would do the Hooker long tubes and Blackheart system and add cats if your installer can find room. Duals WILL free up more hp and tq when you tune for it. Alternatively, if you can find an SLP D/D as suggested above, that is a great flowing system (for a Y) that is quiet. You can always add a cutout if you want more noise. Get the Kooks or ARH LT with catted Y, you'll be surprised how docile it is. Here is my current setup, but it's rowdier so I had to do extra to get 3" duals in there while still trying to keep it sane. https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...l#post20532165
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This is a great suggestion for someone who wants OEM sound levels for cruising, but the availability of free flow when maximum acceleration is desired. However the problem is that you only have two sound options like this - OEM quiet or SUPER loud. Many of us prefer something inbetween, thus the popularity of the various aftermarket mufflers. I wasn't happy cruising around with the OEM system, much too quiet, but an open cutout isn't exactly what I wanted to hear either.
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Theres always an acceptation to the rule… For most, exhaust gets nasty pretty quick.
Also you have more options than loud or quiet if you run the standard electric cutout. You can open it say 2%-5%... or 10% to 20% etc… Doesn’t have to be 100% open/closed. I like BadlanzHPE cutouts. Great customer service and quality at reasonable prices.
I will say I run E85 so exhaust and cabin smell isn’t an issue. Pump gas plain stinks if you dump it under the cabin. Can always route the dumped exhaust out from under the cab though.
Also you have more options than loud or quiet if you run the standard electric cutout. You can open it say 2%-5%... or 10% to 20% etc… Doesn’t have to be 100% open/closed. I like BadlanzHPE cutouts. Great customer service and quality at reasonable prices.
I will say I run E85 so exhaust and cabin smell isn’t an issue. Pump gas plain stinks if you dump it under the cabin. Can always route the dumped exhaust out from under the cab though.
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Theres always an acceptation to the rule… For most, exhaust gets nasty pretty quick.
Also you have more options than loud or quiet if you run the standard electric cutout. You can open it say 2%-5%... or 10% to 20% etc… Doesn’t have to be 100% open/closed. I like BadlanzHPE cutouts. Great customer service and quality at reasonable prices.
I will say I run E85 so exhaust and cabin smell isn’t an issue. Pump gas plain stinks if you dump it under the cabin. Can always route the dumped exhaust out from under the cab though.
Also you have more options than loud or quiet if you run the standard electric cutout. You can open it say 2%-5%... or 10% to 20% etc… Doesn’t have to be 100% open/closed. I like BadlanzHPE cutouts. Great customer service and quality at reasonable prices.
I will say I run E85 so exhaust and cabin smell isn’t an issue. Pump gas plain stinks if you dump it under the cabin. Can always route the dumped exhaust out from under the cab though.
But to your point, there isn't really a need for an expensive complete system if you do cutouts near the headers for when maximum performance is desired. At that point, larger diameter I-pipes, mandrel bends, etc. don't really matter. Then you could just swap out only the muffler if you want a little better sound while cruising around without full-force cutouts or partial opening, etc. But I agree that most folks won't benefit from the "flashy" look of polished stainless like my application...most cars just aren't used that way.
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im go say the kooks true dual X pipe is the loudest exhaust period. The mufflers is bullet type for sure and it not for everybody. I let my brother drive the car and at wide open throttle i can hear my car screaming threw the trees. I also will have a Nick Willams 92mm throttle body up for sale as well. Im going 102mm.
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I have the tsp true duals with lts and ive had no issues with the headers but the duals hang low and scrape and most likely if you opt for a duals setup that has 3inch pipes you will need a different panhard bar to fit but you can just bend the oem one i like my exhaust cause it doesnt sound kazoo like its nice and throaty but the drone at 1800 rpm is unbearable almost but thats from the headers my .02"
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Here is a stock LS1 with ARH LTs, cats, and dual dual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5H4d61hv8
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Dual/dual has long been the best option for folks who want premium flow with very little volume increase over stock. This system can even handle a cat delete/ORY without getting raspy. It's a great option to accomplish what you want (near OEM quiet, but better flow). Only problem is getting one; used is the only option.
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Forgot I had this video. My little "helper" did the best he could. When I was trying to find a dual/dual all I could find was rusted/hacked up **** people wanted a ton of money for. I gave up and went with the Maggie. Its not near as quiet as you think. Hell of a lot deeper tone than the Corsa that came off the car with none of the rasp. No drone and its nice and quiet when cruising.
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Lots of folks think the Magnaflow catback is quiet, but it's much louder than dual/dual. I wouldn't even call them comparable. With that said, Magnaflow used to sell a muffler-only replacement for the 3/4th gen exhaust configuration that was nearly as quiet as dual/dual, but that's not the same muffler they use in their dedicated catback system today (which didn't even exist back then). Not sure if that muffler is still in production, it was nearly 25 years ago when I last bought one.
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TX is a visual they just don't do it.
@Y2K_Frenzy They aren't going to start just because the end of safety inspections. The counties aren't losing any money with that going away so they don't care.
The sniffer used to be a thing in TX but has not been for a while now. It was also not for every county, not sure which ones it was for in the first place. Not Tarrant.
@Y2K_Frenzy They aren't going to start just because the end of safety inspections. The counties aren't losing any money with that going away so they don't care.
The sniffer used to be a thing in TX but has not been for a while now. It was also not for every county, not sure which ones it was for in the first place. Not Tarrant.
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The dual dual is definitely what you want. I recently installed one on my newly acquired stock 02 and can tell you it is very quiet yet refined and classy. I’m about to put my heads/cam L76 in the car and want to keep it quiet. Will probably have to add cats and a resonator. At 45 I now want peace and relaxation, a gentleman’s cruiser and no fumes (imagine that) while enjoying my new $4k system.
Search eBay and your local marketplace, offer up, and LS Facebook groups. I found mine through my local club and has been through quite a few hands over the years. It cleaned up really well with aluminum brightener from Napa and a scrub brush. I hope you find what you’re looking for, don’t give up.
Search eBay and your local marketplace, offer up, and LS Facebook groups. I found mine through my local club and has been through quite a few hands over the years. It cleaned up really well with aluminum brightener from Napa and a scrub brush. I hope you find what you’re looking for, don’t give up.
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I'm in the same 45+ age group, but I couldn't imagine adding cats AND a resonator to a system that quiet, unless maybe it was a daily driver. I still like my toys to have a bit more noise, and some exhaust aroma. In fact, as I continue to age and my hearing begins to deteriorate, I'll probably want more volume rather than less.
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