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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Question What is better 2.5'' or 3'' for y-pipe?

Is there a difference in gaining power or sounds? What is better for lower car?
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2.5" will obviously be better for a lowered car (takes up less space, more clearance) but as far as which makes more power, just too many factors (engine size, NA or FI, stock internals etc?) to consider there.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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A properly designed 2.5" into 3" (or 3.5") can produce better torque on stock cammed cars because the narrower diameter helps keep the velocity of the exhaust gasses high. On cammed cars shifting 6500 and higher, I would go with 3" into 3.5"

A poorly designed merge will kill a Y-pipe using 2.5" sides
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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So on a car that plans to have heads and cam in the future, is a 3" y-pipe (like qtp with flowmaster merge) going into a 3" I-pipe with a cutout going to make the most power next to true duals? How much difference is there between a 3" and a 2.5" y-pipe as far as power?
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Just go with the 3" ORY and get a cutout. Power will be close to true duals especially with the open cutout.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
A properly designed 2.5" into 3" (or 3.5") can produce better torque on stock cammed cars because the narrower diameter helps keep the velocity of the exhaust gasses high.
Correct. That is why you would want to pay for quality headers, or just put something on there if you know you can replace it soon with a quality part. I don't see how the different stepped headers can gain lots of easy hp, that would require some real R&D.
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How much power do you lose going through high flow cats compared to an ORY? Because I have heard that without cats, there is rasp with most aftermarket catbacks. And rasp is something that will bug me, so if the power loss through cats is negligable, then I'll just use them.
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It is negligable, 8-12 rwhp on a dyno jet.
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It is negligable, 8-12 rwhp on a dyno jet.
NO WAY !!! - More like 2-3 rwhp.... It's a sad myth that high-flow cats take away more than that...
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NO WAY !!! - More like 2-3 rwhp.... It's a sad myth that high-flow cats take away more than that...
It depends. On an internally stock motor naturally aspirated motor it might be only 3-5 rwhp but on a more serious set up (heads and cam, stroker, blower/turbo etc.) it could be as much as 15-20rwhp in some cases.
And if they rob any less power than that then they probably aren't really 'functioning' cats, more like small bullet mufflers with open screens in them at that point.
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Well, I wouldn't really be keeping the cats to be "functioning" as far as emissions. We don't even have emissions testing in Missouri. I just don't want rasp from my exhaust. And I have heard a lot of stories of how bad rasp is without cats. Does the metallic substrate cats make any difference?
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You could use bullets where the cats go like i did to remove rasp.
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