true about he HD situation, they actually started enforcing a new law that requires ALL vehicles to have sound restrictions in certain area's at certain times. This is mainly due to the fact that there are so many bikers that hang out in a few different areas and they of course, have to rack off their pipes when leaving.

 

dont get me wrong , i like to hear a nice harley but jesus it gets rediculous. its like they aim the pipes directly into the window of my car or somthing. i've grown up around racing, i used to race mx, wrenched on sprint cars etc. but its out of controll sometimes.

 

they do get out of control sometimes. What really irritates me is the people who complain about people having loud cars, and then they own a harley (hypocrites). Also, what is the deal with harley owners working on their bikes in the middle of the night. I wouldnt really care (in fact i have done it with my car many of times), but they take it to a new level when they rev their engines for over an hour. That use to happen to me at least once a week.

 

officers enforce the law but do not have to obey them

 

I recently converted from dumps to an under the axle setup. I cant begin to tell you how much of a differentce it made. The couple of bends in my setup really quieted things down a bit. Its still sounds good at idle, but a little quieter than dumps. At part throttle is was EXTREMELY noticable how much quieter it was after the switch. At WOT, its quieter, but not much. Its a good combination.

My setup is under the axle, but mostly to the side. Continuing from the normal bullet muffler dump location, I have a 45 bend out towards the wheel, and 90 bend opposite, and another 45 bend to straighten the tubing out again. The 45 90 45 bend works well, its a bit of a safety measure if you use clamps where it mates to the bullets too. If they jack up your car, the clamp will just twist, rather than rip out your exhaust. Since the exhaust somes back inline with the bullets, its setup perfectly for a CME, like i have now.

 

now is it just quiter in the cab or is it actually quiter...dumps are known for their high noise level in the cab since they are dumped right there

 

No, its actually quieter. Of course its much more livable inside the car. Much less rattles and drone. But its actually quieter outside the car as well. I start my car in the mornings for a couple minutes before I leave now in the winter. It used to be loud enough to cause some rattles inside the house. Now it's much quieter at startup and idle. At work, there's a parking garage, and I used to set off the same 4 or so car alarm every morning, unless i was soooooooo light on the throttle and shifting at 1k, which was rediculous to try and feather the clutch like that. Now I have to be really on the throttle to set off any alarms, which dosnt happen too often in the parking garage. Lastly near my house theres an entrance ramp to the expressway with two walls on either side. Its perfect for a short little WOT blast with the windows down to really hear what the exhaust sounds like. It still sounds like the gates of hell are opening up, but not as deafeningly loud as before. Oh, and this is with gutted cats, so it may not be as pronounced a difference if youve still got cats.

-T

 

Thats freaking halarous

Im also like the meat pole idea.

If you really want to make it quiet just take them over the axle.

 

man i dont want to think what would happen... i would pull over the second time.. pop the hood, show him the cats and the muffler and say man.. thats twice as much as anyone else runs... (atleast around where im at) he could have full view of my n2o kit and all the other mods he wants for all id care.. ***sounds like the guy is harassing you cuase u have had 2 bad *** cars and he can barely afford a cavalier and still put food on the table.. if he got an attitude after i let him see everything or wrote me a ticket, i swear id prolly wind up in lots more trouble for leaving wot or cussing at him.. or hell i dunno but definetly something!!! some cops are cool, they do there job and i respect them.. some cops are picky cocksucking ********* with a jealousy problem... apparently he was the kid in highschool that didn't get laid!

 

i would say just make an effort to comply. take it over the axle so thats legal. if they see you are trying they know your not a dick and might cut you some slack. or just have more of the ricer crowd get in there. lots of guys around here with really loud exhaust. boom tubes, nothing, i mean we have some real loud cars. my friend got stoped after going wot in his SS with boom tube and the cop just checked his license and reg. and let him go when he found it was good lol i find most to just be all bitchy beause they see young kids driving nice cars thinking mommy and daddy got it for them when in reality most of us dont get **** from our parents.

well i take that back they get me some stuff but for christmas, except they pay for about half of it lol so i have an F13 on the way

 

I would do it just like this:

1) Attempt to comply; go down and have the Bacon measure the sound with the APPROVED and legally used measuring device if this law truly exists or is even enforcable. Get documentation on this. This gives you an exact number/baseline. Hell, you might not even be over the limit. Document all interaction with the police at all times, this is evidence for use later on if needed.

2) If you are over the limit, make an adjustment to comply even if it doesn't get you all the way down to where you need to be if you are indeed over. Attempting to play by the rules is way better than getting caught breaking them completely even if you are not in full compliance. Once you attempt to comply, go back and have them measure again, get documentation. Save this.

3) Carry all proof of this compliance or attempts to comply with you in the car. This way if you run into pork again, you have some evidence that you are attempting to comply and he is less likely to ticket you. You can always pull that out and state that you have been in touch with the police department regarding regs and have made modifications to comply even if you really haven't. Few if any donut jockeys will spend the time on paperwork and effort to write you up and risk the chance that you go in front of a judge and state that you are being harassed by someone who claims to have a calibrated ear, especially if you have your proof to back you up, including all documentation.

4) Drive as sedately as possible. Less likely to pull over someone when there is no probable cause or traffic situation to call you on. Use a radar detector when ever you can.

5) No matter what, ALWAYS be courteous to the curly tails, maintain your composure at all times, act positive and give them no additional reasons to screw with you. If anyone is going to become emotional and make it personal, let it be them. Almost all departments seem to have video in their cars to use as evidence/documention, use it against them if you can. Do NOT tell him to smoke your meat pole; no need to give them extra evidence to use against you. Better to portray yourself as a law abiding auto enthusiast and not a menace to society in any way. They will use everything they can against you.

6) If you do get a ticket for this, take it to court, show all of your paperwork outlining your past interaction, use the afore mentioned Harley Davidson as an example of selective enforcement and possible harrassment by the round nosed ones. Use your driving record as proof of not being a bad guy if you can (disregard this if you have any speeding, racing, reckless, etc... tickets) Use a lawyer if you have a hard time speaking in front of a judge or have any type of temper problem.

 

Im from cali, and what the cop says goes, I have received fix it tickets with things that I have on paper as being 50 states compliant and the chp still wants u to remove it. The truth is that if he feels its wrong, it is, bottom line.

 

possibly get in touch with S.A.N they are here to help us .SEMA ACTION NETWORK

 

Being '50 state legal' or 'DOT Approved' means nothing. Anything modifying the vehicle from its original condition from the factory, technically, is illegal. No ifs, ands, or buts...I've been through the courts about it all. And we're not talking about Cali courts either...

 

That's one of the things I like about my Borla adjustable cat back. I can use the block off plates to run it all thru the muffler and it's soooo quite. Or I can open it up so it's even too loud for me. Three bolts, about 5 minutes. Good luck with yours. I think the Magna flow is a straight thru muffler also and quite.

 

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