Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

True Duals Kick A#@.....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:03 PM
  #1  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default True Duals Kick A#@.....

I installed some Pacesetter LT's this weekend and the install went smoothly. Took the car this morning to a local muffler shop that a buddy of mine owns and had him run TD's. I went 2.5" off the collector to a Magnaflow Tru-X pipe, down the stock routing side over the axle with the help of the BMR Relocation bar, and finally into 2 Magnaflow 4" Round body mufflers. The tips I chose are PN 35171. They are a 3" inlet 3.5" x 5.5" polished stainless tip. Makes the Formula *** end look great. The sound is awesome. The tone at idle is muscular. At cruise it is very tame and deep. No Drone or Rasp. At a rolling flog the sound comes to life and is remarkable. It has a slight hint of rasp at WOT but overall is really just a little louder than a header, ory w/ Hooker or Dynomax catback. I will have some pictures to post up probably in a couple days. The sound bytes and videos really do not do this setup justice. I think the 4" round body muffler might be a good alternative to the bullets that everyone run and becomes tired of very quickly. Sorry for my long rant.

Dave
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:47 PM
  #2  
00Z28 Camaro's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 588
Likes: 1
From: Palm Harbor,Tampa
Default

nice, how much was the whole bit if i may ask ?
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:49 PM
  #3  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

The whole setup cost me $670. This included mufflers, x-pipe, and tips. Not a bad deal really if you think about it.

Dave
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:12 PM
  #4  
ZR2877's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 0
From: Ga
Default

Glad you like them. True Duals sound so good. Now all you need is a cam and it only gets sweeter. You should get some cutouts that dump under the car for a little different sound. You can cap them when you get tired of it. I have mine ran out the back but also some C/O for when I want it a little louder.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:18 PM
  #5  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

Yeah I can't wait to get a cam. I am going to finish the suspension this summer. I will probably need a clutch by fall. Then I will most likely do a cam over the winter. It does sound incredible and will only get better with time and a cam. Thanks.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:48 PM
  #6  
BlutVonSchwachen's Avatar
Launching!
20 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 290
Likes: 1
From: Denver, CO
Default

$670 over the axle, and im looking at over $1k for a dump before the axle, where did I go wrong?

Hurry up with the pics, cant wait to see it.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:28 PM
  #7  
FattyMcTrickle's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BlutVonSchwachen
$670 over the axle, and im looking at over $1k for a dump before the axle, where did I go wrong?

Hurry up with the pics, cant wait to see it.
You don't have a friend who owns a shop.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:30 PM
  #8  
psykoTA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,236
Likes: 0
From: Central FL
Default

Originally Posted by DWillTA
I installed some Pacesetter LT's this weekend and the install went smoothly. Took the car this morning to a local muffler shop that a buddy of mine owns and had him run TD's. I went 2.5" off the collector to a Magnaflow Tru-X pipe, down the stock routing side over the axle with the help of the BMR Relocation bar, and finally into 2 Magnaflow 4" Round body mufflers. The tips I chose are PN 35171. They are a 3" inlet 3.5" x 5.5" polished stainless tip. Makes the Formula *** end look great. The sound is awesome. The tone at idle is muscular. At cruise it is very tame and deep. No Drone or Rasp. At a rolling flog the sound comes to life and is remarkable. It has a slight hint of rasp at WOT but overall is really just a little louder than a header, ory w/ Hooker or Dynomax catback. I will have some pictures to post up probably in a couple days. The sound bytes and videos really do not do this setup justice. I think the 4" round body muffler might be a good alternative to the bullets that everyone run and becomes tired of very quickly. Sorry for my long rant.

Dave
Please post pics
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:18 AM
  #9  
00Z28 Camaro's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 588
Likes: 1
From: Palm Harbor,Tampa
Default

damn , yeah thats a good price
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:12 PM
  #10  
Camaro99SS's Avatar
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 879
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by BlutVonSchwachen
$670 over the axle, and im looking at over $1k for a dump before the axle, where did I go wrong?

Hurry up with the pics, cant wait to see it.
Who's charging your $1k for dumped true duals??? That's outrageous!! Stay away from that place.

Jason
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:13 PM
  #11  
matts22's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,123
Likes: 0
From: Missouri
Default

Originally Posted by Camaro99SS
Who's charging your $1k for dumped true duals??? That's outrageous!! Stay away from that place.

Jason
I'm pretty sure he just said it backwards. Easy mistake.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:27 PM
  #12  
psykoTA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,236
Likes: 0
From: Central FL
Default

Originally Posted by matts22
I'm pretty sure he just said it backwards. Easy mistake.
He was looking at dumped duals, me and him spoke in a thread

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...54#post2636854

I think he was including LT's and cats in that statement.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:36 PM
  #13  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default Pics are here

Here are the pics as promised. I have more so if you want some other angles let me know.
Attached Thumbnails True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-041s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-039s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-034s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-033s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-035s.jpg  

Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:39 PM
  #14  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

Continued..
Attached Thumbnails True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-036s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-038s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-037s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-040s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-046s.jpg  

Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:45 PM
  #15  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

A couple more from the back
Attached Thumbnails True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-051s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-050s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-049s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-048s.jpg   True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-052s.jpg  

Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:50 PM
  #16  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

The ground clearance is excellent. The lowest point is the bend on the drivers side that takes it over to the x-pipe. The clearance is the same as with any y-pipe setup. The sound again is phenomenal. It is getting a little louder the more I drive it but is still tolerable. The cruising deep, mellow tone is great. Well hope the pictures help those who need guidance and prove to the others who say it can not be done. Later

Dave

Last edited by DWillTA; Mar 22, 2005 at 06:35 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:57 PM
  #17  
tim99ws6's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 2
From: Nashville, TN
Default


Where is that hanger off of your X-junction welded to? It looks like it is welded to your torque arm. Maybe i'm just seeing it weird....
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:00 PM
  #18  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

There are to mounts with nuts welded to the torque arm from the factory. Almost looks like for a factory driveshaft loop, but anyway it is bolted not welded to that mount. It loads the exhaust alittle bit on a pole lift but you can do chin ups off the exhaust so it holds it very well. The picture below might show the mount better.
Attached Thumbnails True Duals Kick A#@.....-mvc-039s.jpg  
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:14 PM
  #19  
Birdie2000's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Traverse City, MI
Default

Looks nice, but why weld the pipe to the collector?? Will make it much more difficult than need be to remove/reinstall the system.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:22 PM
  #20  
DWillTA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Fairmont, WV
Default

We first tried it with band clamps and some muffler cement. Well it started leaking so he suggested to slip the pipe inside the collector and weld it up for sealing purposes. He said if you for any reason have to remove it I could use a pipe cutter to cut the weld and just slide the undamaged pipe out of the collector. I have plenty of room on the left side to slide the torque arm and the driveshaft out. I also have 10" to 12" to slide the tranny back to get the input shaft out of the clutch. From my measurements I need about 7" to 9" to get the shaft out. I really did not want to weld the collectors but it is better than fighting exhaust leaks and poor driveablilty because of bad O2 data. Sorry for the long explanation.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:17 PM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE