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If bolt isn't crossed or bottomed, I've removed short stubs like that with a thin punch, especially old style sbc perimeter valve cover bolts. Just lightly tap around the outside diameter of the broken bolt at a slight angle so it spins out. A little wd-40 on the threads helps. I've even done it with a pawl just spinning it out.
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Trying mixing up a little jb weld. Touch it on the broken off bolt head and gently put in on whats left of the bolt. Hold it unitl it sets and try to back it out. If you can turn it out with a little screwdriver the jb weld will probably hold enough to get it out.
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Originally Posted by 007fl
Trying mixing up a little jb weld. Touch it on the broken off bolt head and gently put in on whats left of the bolt. Hold it unitl it sets and try to back it out. If you can turn it out with a little screwdriver the jb weld will probably hold enough to get it out.
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bolt removal I would not hit it with a punch either. Without seeing it, its hard to say exactly what id do, if you could get hold of a right angle air drill that is small, and drill it perfectly in the center. "this would be hard" and use a quality easy out that is sharp and new, this would be the best bet. Seeing well to do it might require some skill and creativity. Sears has some sharp, small ones for about 45.00 a set. If this dont work id do the dremel. But either way heat it in the center only with a bent soldering iron, before you try it. 
Originally Posted by 007fl
Trying mixing up a little jb weld. Touch it on the broken off bolt head and gently put in on whats left of the bolt. Hold it unitl it sets and try to back it out. If you can turn it out with a little screwdriver the jb weld will probably hold enough to get it out.
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thanks boone
i guess i shouldn't have worded it as "smack" it which a hammer
i did mean just tap it lightly, to see if she'll spin, i'll try that after the good 'ol JB weld lol
i guess i shouldn't have worded it as "smack" it which a hammer
i did mean just tap it lightly, to see if she'll spin, i'll try that after the good 'ol JB weld lol
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okay, i tried to take a punch, even a chissle to the bolt and try to tap it to get it to spin, the sucker wouldn't move. i can't really say b/c its tight, but that the damned thing is almost flush!
whata i do? i honestly don't know what to do
other than drop the oil pan and drill and retap that hole, and I don't wanna do that, I probably don't even have TIME to do that. ugh.........................
i hope someone has a great idea. i'm going to ask around at work to see if someone has easy outs, but i don't think theres room to use one...even with the header off
also, just for sh*ts and giggles, here is a couple pics of the bolt head that broke off.
bolt
bolt 2
whata i do? i honestly don't know what to do
other than drop the oil pan and drill and retap that hole, and I don't wanna do that, I probably don't even have TIME to do that. ugh.........................
i hope someone has a great idea. i'm going to ask around at work to see if someone has easy outs, but i don't think theres room to use one...even with the header off
also, just for sh*ts and giggles, here is a couple pics of the bolt head that broke off.
bolt
bolt 2
Last edited by MetallicaMatt; Jul 17, 2005 at 05:36 PM.
You messed up..... but there is always a way. Take it off (looks like the oil temp sensor) and drill with a dremel and use an easy out. If you dont have a Dremel go buy one. If you dont have an easy out go buy one. 2 new 6mm bolts also. That will do it.
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Originally Posted by Lasershop
You messed up..... but there is always a way. Take it off (looks like the oil temp sensor) and drill with a dremel and use an easy out. If you dont have a Dremel go buy one. If you dont have an easy out go buy one. 2 new 6mm bolts also. That will do it.
i don't think its the oil temp sensor, theres nothing pluged into it. i've never seen an easy out, so is there room for one to fit?
It's the oil diverter plate (someone already mentioned this in the thread) and it's going to be tough to get that guy out. The JB weld method sounds like it might just work... You're going to have to get very creative with this one. Good luck getting it out.
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i don't think its the oil temp sensor, theres nothing pluged into it. i've never seen an easy out, so is there room for one to fit?
It's the oil diverter plate (someone already mentioned this in the thread) and it's going to be tough to get that guy out. The JB weld method sounds like it might just work... You're going to have to get very creative with this one. Good luck getting it out.
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Originally Posted by Lasershop
Technically its a screw extractor (Sears/orchard/auto parts). Drill an 1/8" hole with a Dremel (or start smaller), start the extractor and just unscrew that sucker. Providing you havent been talked into beating the hell out of it.
its a 6mm right? i found a 3 piece set at sears.com for like 30 bucks
i'll see if i can just buy one.
hopefully theres enough room up there when the header is off to get a dremel in there
should i consider grinding the suface flate (flush) so i can drill in there?
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its a 6mm right? i found a 3 piece set at sears.com for like 30 bucks
i'll see if i can just buy one.
hopefully theres enough room up there when the header is off to get a dremel in there
should i consider grinding the suface flate (flush) so i can drill in there?
i'll see if i can just buy one.
hopefully theres enough room up there when the header is off to get a dremel in there
should i consider grinding the suface flate (flush) so i can drill in there?
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Originally Posted by Lasershop
Would not hurt to center punch it. Bad thing if you do not drill straight and down the center. Dont have to drill too far. It will work just fine.
okay cool. i'll have to see if anybody at work has one
if not, maybe they'll sell just singles at advanced or napa
If you can get a drill in there I would try a left handed drill bit. Make sure it's sharp. Most of the time they will pull it out with out the easyout, but if not you can use the hole you drilled for it.
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do i NEED a let handed drill bit? or can i just run the drill in reverse? I was going to try that with an 1/8" bit, hoping that alone will back her out.
if that doesn't, then I have the punch style easy offs. these aren't threaded, but you smack 'em in with a hammer.
I think I may have the threaded easy outs, but i dunno what will work better?
I'm going to tackle this tmr, so wish me luck.
my last 2 questions for now
i should really file that flat so I can center punch it, before i drill. problem with this is that it'll probably be flush by time its flat. that makes me nervous
the big question:
should the auto parts store have those bolts in stock? or are they some odd ball f*cked up size? If they are odd ball, whats the part number so I can order them?
if that doesn't, then I have the punch style easy offs. these aren't threaded, but you smack 'em in with a hammer.
I think I may have the threaded easy outs, but i dunno what will work better?
I'm going to tackle this tmr, so wish me luck.
my last 2 questions for now
i should really file that flat so I can center punch it, before i drill. problem with this is that it'll probably be flush by time its flat. that makes me nervous
the big question:
should the auto parts store have those bolts in stock? or are they some odd ball f*cked up size? If they are odd ball, whats the part number so I can order them?
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do i NEED a let handed drill bit? or can i just run the drill in reverse? I was going to try that with an 1/8" bit, hoping that alone will back her out.
if that doesn't, then I have the punch style easy offs. these aren't threaded, but you smack 'em in with a hammer.
I think I may have the threaded easy outs, but i dunno what will work better?
I'm going to tackle this tmr, so wish me luck.
my last 2 questions for now
i should really file that flat so I can center punch it, before i drill. problem with this is that it'll probably be flush by time its flat. that makes me nervous
the big question:
should the auto parts store have those bolts in stock? or are they some odd ball f*cked up size? If they are odd ball, whats the part number so I can order them?
if that doesn't, then I have the punch style easy offs. these aren't threaded, but you smack 'em in with a hammer.
I think I may have the threaded easy outs, but i dunno what will work better?
I'm going to tackle this tmr, so wish me luck.
my last 2 questions for now
i should really file that flat so I can center punch it, before i drill. problem with this is that it'll probably be flush by time its flat. that makes me nervous
the big question:
should the auto parts store have those bolts in stock? or are they some odd ball f*cked up size? If they are odd ball, whats the part number so I can order them?
Thought you couldnt get a drill in there.
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it didn't look like i couldn't
i tried it tonight and it mighta fit, but i was able to center punch it, and accidently chip a piece off, and then was able to turn it around with the punch
i'm happy now lol
thanks for the help guys
i tried it tonight and it mighta fit, but i was able to center punch it, and accidently chip a piece off, and then was able to turn it around with the punch
i'm happy now lol
thanks for the help guys