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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Hey all,

I plan on buying a LS1 F-body sometime in the near future (probably before the end of the year) which will be my daily driver.

I plan on doing bolt-ons (intake, full exhaust, tune) soon after a buy the car, then going with H/C sometime next year.

Because the car will be a daily driver (50+ miles a day) it needs to be quiet enough so that I won't get a headache while driving.

I've heard that true duel exhaust systems are very loud, plus I plan on lowering my car, so I'm pretty sure that choice is out of the picture.

Would a good choice for me be going with a Y-pipe and cat-back, but with a cutout so I can increase the flow when needed?

Also, is this the stock cat-back that comes on SS camaros? How well does this system flow? Would it be too restrictive when used with headers and no cats?

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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Yeah thats the dual dual that comes on the SS as an option. Flows really good and is one of the quitest. I would also just throw a cutout in the I pipe for the extra noise and hp when you need it (probley only a few hp). The SLP dual dual is an excellant choice for a headache free ride
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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stock ehaust is very restrictive. you should go with a good y-pipe and cat back. if you want something thats not too loud with a H/C i would recommend going with the hooker cat back. I hope you have some money saved up because it all starts to snowball. I would say do suspension first, for the fact why have the power if you can't put it to the ground. If you put a cut out on make sure its stainless steel.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by black01_WS6
stock ehaust is very restrictive.
The stock Z28 exhaust or SLP exhaust?

Originally Posted by black01_WS6
you should go with a good y-pipe and cat back. if you want something thats not too loud with a H/C i would recommend going with the hooker cat back. I hope you have some money saved up because it all starts to snowball. I would say do suspension first, for the fact why have the power if you can't put it to the ground. If you put a cut out on make sure its stainless steel.
I plan on doing several different types of modifications at the same time (power, looks, suspension, etc.)

The reason I asked is because I am currently looking a buying a Camaro SS with the SLP cat-back and cut-out. When I put on headers and a Y-pipe, should I change the rest of the exhaust or keep it as it is?
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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I would keep it as is because you are looking for quite and good flow.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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with the slp dual/dual, headers wont make the TOO loud. yes it will be louder but will be just fine driving long distances.
i just drove from san antonio to san diego and back. had no problems with my exhaust(check my sig). headers and dual/dual will be even quieter
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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the stock y-pipe is very restrictive from the factory, ss or z28. the hooker exhaust is not that loud until you put a cam or heads and cam. do the whole exaust at the same time and save your self the time. im not knocking other exhaust systems, I have heard many others with and w/o cams and thats why I picked my exhaust. The best advice for anyone looking for exhaust is to listen to other peoples cars, and to do some research, and to know what your plan is with the car. different exhaust systems are better for different applications. it comes down to what you want.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Go with true duals that goes over the axle and exit out the rear from beneath the bumper in the stock location. Stop and think a minute. If you can lower the car with a stock exhaust system you can also lower the car with a true dual system where both pipes follow the same path as the single exhaust system followed. About quiet, should you run mufflers why would it be loud? I have true duals on my Camaro with both pipes going over the axle and exiting out the rear from beneath the bumper in the stock location. I used straight through, noise cancelling mufflers and it is not loud. I use my car as an every day driver also, so it has to be quiet inside the car but I did not want it loud outside the car either. That thing about true dual are loud is a bunch of crap. If you want it quiet, then put mufflers on it to make it quiet. I chose the straight through, noise cancelling mufflers for two reasons. First; they are straight through so no restriction, Second; they silence the exhaust but at the same time, they give me that muscle car tone. You will get a lot of misinformation on some of these forums because the people that trying to inform you are misinformed. Talk to people that use their cars the same way you plan to use yours and see what they have done. Also talk to the guy at you local muffler shop. He can probably help you out a lot. True dual is the only way to go. Do it and do away with that STUPID "Y" pipe system.

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JEB Garner
Go with true duals that goes over the axle and exit out the rear from beneath the bumper in the stock location.
Thats what I would like to do, but I have not found many over-axle exhaust systems. Do you know of any that you can recommend?

Also, does anyone know what kind of exhaust this is?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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No one knows of any true dual over-axle exhaust systems?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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custom is all iv'e found. I think a catted system sounds more comfortable, but opinions vary alot around the world. Im in the same boat. I want a good sounding system, but i also want performance at a quiet level. Believe me, ive been doing research. I may install cats in my system for only one reason. To mellow the tone. I don't want the law enforcement to look at me every time i get on it, but I want max performance at the track. An added benefit to adding cats will mellow the exhaust note and not cost much hp. AAMOF factory cats with no muffo lers passed the sound requirements at the last race i was at. I may add aftermarket cats with an aftermarket exhaust system. here in the near future. this would require cutouts for full on drag racing to maximize flow and hp pontential.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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I have heard that Flowmaster exhaust systems are very restrictive. Would there be a difference in HP between the Flowmaster cat-back and the Magnaflow?
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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I have heard the same thing. After I had the flowmaster installed, I read that. It sounds good, but doesn't do anything for hp gain on my ls1 compared to stock, although the flowmaster 3" single in and out lt1 kit kit with one 3" tailpipe, made my lt1 car faster. I read that the regular 40 series and the crossflow mufflers don't work on f-bodies due to flow issues. The muffler on the lt1 single kit was way bigger in size than a normal flowmaster, I think it was based on a big block muffler but I havent confirmed that yet.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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flowmaster is the bottom on exhaust when it comes to the ls1. magnaflow is a lot better system, and flows very well.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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thanks black01_WS6, I agree. Flowmaster is a scam. Ive owned alot of mufflers, and flowmaster is the worst from a flow standpoint. I recommend reading the exhaust issue of popular hot rodding, they explain in depth the zero loss hp exhaust system. they explain the difference between pulse evacuation and cfm required by mufflers. Great info.
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