Does Flowmaster=Bad???
Originally Posted by taintedmeat
There are a couple of good shops here man. Only one I can tell you about here is ART since they are a sponsor though. PM me if you want to know about the other one. 
PM sent..
Originally Posted by Vrbas
With those mods getting back to where the factory rated you shouldn't be hard AT ALL. In fact, 350 shouldn't be too much of a reach either with all you have listed. Unless you have yet to tune anything.
Heck, i haven't tuned anything and look at my mods. Nothing special or really in need of a tune. But once i get my cam and Underdrive pulley on, i'll take it up for a tune.
Do what others say, wait until you feel like after this mod, you probably won't put anymore mods on it. Then you can get the tune. Even though you and i BOTH know there is no such saying as "i'm done with my car".
Heck, i haven't tuned anything and look at my mods. Nothing special or really in need of a tune. But once i get my cam and Underdrive pulley on, i'll take it up for a tune.
Do what others say, wait until you feel like after this mod, you probably won't put anymore mods on it. Then you can get the tune. Even though you and i BOTH know there is no such saying as "i'm done with my car".
Keep me posted.
Originally Posted by AKIRA
That is an outrageous ******* price.
ok so you spend 15k on the car, 1k on exhaust, 500 on headers, 450 on intake, 1500 on heads, 400 on cam, blah blah, but gain 80 hp so you are now around 390 maybe, but to take full advantage another 500 on a dyno tune, and then guess what dont forget to get stronger suspension parts to keep from tearing up what you just did, then hey your gonna blow your rear= money
phewww boy I can bitch huh..
anyways
And to answer your second post I completely know the difference between flywheel hp and rear wheel hp, mostly frustrated with manufacturers fluffing #'s, who cares what the flywheel hp is...listen to your customers and rate it what everyone cares about.
I guess really what it comes down to is I have had some really bad experiences and bad luck lately with my car and am really FRUSTRATED with it.
Plus it kind of sucks since I don't really know anyone here for help working on the car or just to say...hey the same thing happened to me when I changed my own clutch, save yourself 4 hours..try this..
Totally different if I was back in Mass.
Plus it kind of sucks since I don't really know anyone here for help working on the car or just to say...hey the same thing happened to me when I changed my own clutch, save yourself 4 hours..try this..
Totally different if I was back in Mass.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
But would you trade a B&B for a flowmaster? A B&B costs twice as much doesnt it?
Don't expect too much out of the hotcam. but Im not knocking it either. I love the sound it makes and has a decent powerband. But you know that most Ls1's dyno 280-300 stock from the factory though.... right?
For flowmasters... I had a flowmaster muffler on my car, and i loved the way it sounded. I kindof wish it was louder, but with the same sound, and as far as dynos go, i put down 317 rwhp/ 334 rwtq. That was stock with the flowmaster and FRA.
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Originally Posted by DarkAzNite
I would have to agree, and that is after spending the money on the parts and the time and headache installing, just to see a good difference in the numbers you spent the money on in the first place. I know it is part of the "fun" "addiction" "passion" whatever you wanna call it,
ok so you spend 15k on the car, 1k on exhaust, 500 on headers, 450 on intake, 1500 on heads, 400 on cam, blah blah, but gain 80 hp so you are now around 390 maybe, but to take full advantage another 500 on a dyno tune, and then guess what dont forget to get stronger suspension parts to keep from tearing up what you just did, then hey your gonna blow your rear= money
phewww boy I can bitch huh..
anyways
And to answer your second post I completely know the difference between flywheel hp and rear wheel hp, mostly frustrated with manufacturers fluffing #'s, who cares what the flywheel hp is...listen to your customers and rate it what everyone cares about.
ok so you spend 15k on the car, 1k on exhaust, 500 on headers, 450 on intake, 1500 on heads, 400 on cam, blah blah, but gain 80 hp so you are now around 390 maybe, but to take full advantage another 500 on a dyno tune, and then guess what dont forget to get stronger suspension parts to keep from tearing up what you just did, then hey your gonna blow your rear= money
phewww boy I can bitch huh..
anyways
And to answer your second post I completely know the difference between flywheel hp and rear wheel hp, mostly frustrated with manufacturers fluffing #'s, who cares what the flywheel hp is...listen to your customers and rate it what everyone cares about.
The manufacturers didn't fluff the #'s, they underestimated the flywheel #'s by 40 or so hp, so the corvette would sell.
Originally Posted by DarkAzNite
First..sorry for kind of hijacking this thread, I was going to say that I have a flowmaster catback on my TA and love the sound, power sucks, am comparing my 99 SS that had a B&B triflow catback, was quieter (unless WOT) but had much more punch.
I had the cam put in while I had the stock 10 bolt, since then have blown 2 stockers, first was from a 4k launch with mild mods, second was just from daily driving, tore up the spider gears in the diff....so I wasn't about to fork over another xxx amount $$'s for another piece of crap that would maybe last another year or two at most, could practically have bought a new one already.
Thanks
I had the cam put in while I had the stock 10 bolt, since then have blown 2 stockers, first was from a 4k launch with mild mods, second was just from daily driving, tore up the spider gears in the diff....so I wasn't about to fork over another xxx amount $$'s for another piece of crap that would maybe last another year or two at most, could practically have bought a new one already.
Thanks
Cool.
I wish I could have gotten the B&B off the SS before it was yanked out of the lot.
Here are some before and after of my first baby
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Damn..it wont let me upload the pictures say's they are too big. How is that possible when I see other threads which have HUGE pictures in them
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I wish I could have gotten the B&B off the SS before it was yanked out of the lot.
Here are some before and after of my first baby
...Damn..it wont let me upload the pictures say's they are too big. How is that possible when I see other threads which have HUGE pictures in them
reason for edit..reduced picture size in order to post
Last edited by DarkAzNite; Nov 16, 2005 at 04:38 PM.
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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
whats ouragous? I don't know a place that will dyno tuen for less than 400.
Standard or not its still outrageous. Consider the work being done. Computer diagnostics? For that much money? I know my pissing moaning isnt going to change anything, but that price is just labor really. And labor consists of someone pushing on your car's pedal and ******* with a computer.
****, even shelling out $250 would make me chuckle.
Originally Posted by AKIRA
Standard or not its still outrageous. Consider the work being done. Computer diagnostics? For that much money? I know my pissing moaning isnt going to change anything, but that price is just labor really. And labor consists of someone pushing on your car's pedal and ******* with a computer.
****, even shelling out $250 would make me chuckle.
****, even shelling out $250 would make me chuckle.
Originally Posted by Camaro Z
I had B&B tri-flow on before, i got a flowmaster muffler because it was cheap, and it sounds better and louder than the B&B i had before. When i look around the forums everybody bashes flowmaster. Is it really that bad compared to other regular Mufflers (ex: B&B).
