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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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does it matter if I put a single cutout after the y pipe comes together or should I do duals after the headers. I will be doing a cam sometime in the next few months so i dont know which would be better or even if it makes a difference.
Also, I assume duals would be louder right? Either way, it would be before the cats and muffler so would one be that much louder than the other?

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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For performance, all you need is one cutout in the I-pipe.
For novelty, 2 cutouts sound even more wicked, but you lose a lot of ground clearance.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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I heard that there is not enough backpressure and you could end up losing hp and tq
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Backpressure not an issue.
Lack of back pressure does not have any adverse effect on the LS1 engine. Lack of "backpressure" simply moves your peak torque up higher in the rev range. You actually gain tq., it's just higher in the rev range, thus, car feels "slower" when you punch it low in the rev range, but indeed will be faster through the 1/4 mile.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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great, thanks for the info. with the few odd mods below do you think i would gain any sort of 1/4 time with the cutout?
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People are loosing hp with dual cutouts.

Stick with the single.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Not positive, but I think dual cutouts might adversly affect some setups because the exhaust pulses haven't had a chance to merge yet....
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Backpressure not an issue.
Lack of back pressure does not have any adverse effect on the LS1 engine. Lack of "backpressure" simply moves your peak torque up higher in the rev range. You actually gain tq., it's just higher in the rev range, thus, car feels "slower" when you punch it low in the rev range, but indeed will be faster through the 1/4 mile.
this is not written in stone

i know know of a dyno verified 5hp and 5tq loss with dual cutouts about 15" behind headers opposed to tsp duals

this was on a 245/259 cam car with afr heads and all bolt ons with killer tune

tuning could not recoup the power loss after opening cutouts
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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^ All I talk about are experiences that I've had happen on my setups, and a general concensus in these forums.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lithium
People are loosing hp with dual cutouts.

Stick with the single.
Gained 10rwhp on my setup (470 to 480 rwhp). Not a huge margin. Not worth losing ground clearance over.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TNMuscle
I heard that there is not enough backpressure and you could end up losing hp and tq
This is true. I used to have headers and a cutout on the I-pipe, and when i dynoed my car i lost about 8 RWHP with the cutout open because of a lack of backpressure.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Backpressure. Hehehe.

Over a restrictive exhaust (i.e. stock muffler/ slowmaster catback), a cutout will open up your exhaust flow.

You will gain hp.
You will gain tq.
Your peak tq. will shift higher in the rev range, thus feeling sluggish down low. You will be faster when keeping engine speeds up.

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i didnt lose any with mine. i have dual cutouts right behind the headers and on a superflow dyno, when i had a hotcam in my car, i picked up 15rwhp with the cutouts open, versus having them closed and goin through an SLP loudmouth catback.
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