I'm NOT saying to anyone "don't buy Pacesetters because of this incident" by any means. I plan on getting things fixed/replaced and still using Pacesetters. I picked them after alot of research on this site mainly for their price, quality, and performance. I know there are **** loads of these things flying out their door and they can't catch every single LITTLE thing, but still someone had to grab them from a coating oven, put them in plastic then into a box, with the other side. At some point someone should say "hey, 8 primary tubes, are the welds cool?" And I'm sure the weld probably looked "good enough" before it was coated and it released after the thermal cycle from coating. I didn't look like there was very much, if any, penetration into the flange material. I saw it 20 seconds out of the box. Maybe it's just me. If there's .01% chance of **** going wrong, it'll happen to me. Maybe I should have labelled the thread "look at my shitty luck again with my new LTs".