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Old 01-06-2006, 05:46 PM
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Default PICS...of my tensioner pulley after it decided to leave my engine

This what it looked like when I popped the hood, the belt is just sitting on the raw bearing very loosely:
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...lley%20001.jpg

I moved the belt off the bearing with my fingers:
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...lley%20002.jpg

I took the belt off and the bearing remains:
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...lley%20002.jpg

Da bearing, froze up:
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...lley%20004.jpg

New pulley, $12.99 at Pep Boys:
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...lley%20005.jpg
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this is off topic, but you might want to push that water pump hose on more. When I was doing my cam sway mine got stuck there, but I pushed in on more and now it's seated fully.
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Lyle,
Dammit man. You're having your share of problems - but
a tensioner is kind of expected at some point, especially
at your HP level. (mine squeaks like a banshee, cold)
I forgot your engine was ARE. Have you asked them
about the summer overheating/coolant loss problems?
Good luck,
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Hey, I just remembered you had some belt alignment
probs. Maybe the tensioner has been going for a
while? Could also explain the overheating if the water
pump was not turning at an optimal speed, huh?
Maybe a new tensioner will clear that all up.
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Originally Posted by Zeus
this is off topic, but you might want to push that water pump hose on more. When I was doing my cam sway mine got stuck there, but I pushed in on more and now it's seated fully.
I always wondered if that should go on more. I'll do that, thanks.
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Originally Posted by gwj
Hey, I just remembered you had some belt alignment
probs. Maybe the tensioner has been going for a
while? Could also explain the overheating if the water
pump was not turning at an optimal speed, huh?
Maybe a new tensioner will clear that all up.
I'm actually talking to the person who built it back then at ARE the last couple days. They're giving me some ideas into the overheating issue.

The belt was off about 3 weeks ago and it was spinning free. It seems it just decided to take a dump on me. Oh, well, 8 years of spinning, it did its job.

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that hose is not supposed to go on any further than that
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you sure about that?

I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying that it seems odd that GM took the time to polish that entire section mirror smooth, and didn't include any form of stop on it to dictate where the hose should extend to, they just let owners put the hose anywhere they choose from 1-4". Mine hung up a little where his hose is, I gave it a little more pressure and it popped all the way on. I don't know if that's the right way, but its the way I did it.
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
that hose is not supposed to go on any further than that
I squeazed the hose earlier tonight and it seems to be grabbing alot of the stem from the water pump, so I'll leave it be.
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fair enough, I stand corrected
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Originally Posted by Zeus
this is off topic, but you might want to push that water pump hose on more. When I was doing my cam sway mine got stuck there, but I pushed in on more and now it's seated fully.
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you sure about that?

I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying that it seems odd that GM took the time to polish that entire section mirror smooth, and didn't include any form of stop on it to dictate where the hose should extend to, they just let owners put the hose anywhere they choose from 1-4". Mine hung up a little where his hose is, I gave it a little more pressure and it popped all the way on. I don't know if that's the right way, but its the way I did it.
Shouldn't hurt to push it on a little more.

But, the way he has it is how my car came from the factory.
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My waterpump hose has always been clamped down in the same spot that Quickin has his. Most of the LS1s that I've seen around here have the hose in the same spot as well.

Quickin, what company makes the tensioner that's on your car? I've seen some posts about people having problems with the factory tensioners, and was looking into possibly replacing mine. How much better is that aftermarket tensioner over the stock tensioner?
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Originally Posted by CRL 01 SS
My waterpump hose has always been clamped down in the same spot that Quickin has his. Most of the LS1s that I've seen around here have the hose in the same spot as well.

Quickin, what company makes the tensioner that's on your car? I've seen some posts about people having problems with the factory tensioners, and was looking into possibly replacing mine. How much better is that aftermarket tensioner over the stock tensioner?
Katech makes it. This is how I understand the whole problem and why they designed it. They designed it because the stock tensioner can't handle higher HP engines when you wack the throttle good. My stock tensioner was just fine when my engine was stock, and its fine if you're still stock. But as soon as I had my engine put in, every time I would get on it, the belt would move forward on the stock tensioner. And if I didn't visually catch it it would have come off.

The problem is the tensioner under hard acceleration with high hp makes the spring arm start vibrating/jumping eratically and the belt gets tight and lose-tight and lose, then starts to jump the tracks on the pulley when there's slack under acceleration and it can come off.

The Katech eliminates the spring mechanism and it's just a tight, non-movable pulley arm, when its tightened doesn't move at all.

Its simply a great piece and works 100% perfectly for me, and I wack my throttle all the time

http://www.katechengines.com/street_...etail.php?id=1


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Originally Posted by Full-Force
that hose is not supposed to go on any further than that
correct. the hose is sitting where it should.
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If you would quit trying to eat all those M/Cs down there
you wouldn't be eating parts.
PM me if you're "over" this way, and can get some photos.
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by gwj
If you would quit trying to eat all those M/Cs down there
you wouldn't be eating parts.
PM me if you're "over" this way, and can get some photos.
Thanks,
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M/C's....?????

Photos of what?????

I went to a pretty cool car show tonight, they had friggin 6 and 7 second cars driving around on the street and a damn real dragster pulled on to Federal Highway for a couple nice revs, it was wacked.


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