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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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if you dont have positive advise then fuckoff, its dipshits like you that ruin the whole purpose of this site
ok scooter. its retards like u that blow up cars and shoudnt be allowed to own a high performance vehicle. i gave my reply further up the page if u care to read all the replys they are right in front of u. but for u to come on here and say i just installed my new pacsetter lt's and y pipe then 2 replys later say u cant afford the extra $3 to run the CORRECT gas in it dont expect not to be told so. gm tells u to run premium for a reason--its not for entertainment purposes only.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Doesnt the fuel cap even say "PREMIUM ONLY"?
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gnbooster87
if you dont have positive advise then fuckoff, its dipshits like you that ruin the whole purpose of this site
IMO, the whole prupose of the site is to learn and help other people, get and give advice. When someone is doing something stupid and/or detrimental, it's nice to have other people that aren't afraid to speak up and say so. This is how you learn. It's easy to get offended when you are doing something you know you probably shouldn't. There have been times when I've been offended by response's to my post's on here, but that's just the way it goes.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Redneck Z is right, if you post about an issue you're having and you want honest advice on possible causes and solutions, sometimes you have to be willing to get answers that don't make you happy. What good would it do if people just told you what you want to hear even if it's not correct or is misleading?

gnbooster87...no one is trying to offend you. It's just a matter of fact that it's self-defeating to try and make more power buy adding expensive performance upgrades only to try and save by running low octane fuel. Your LS1 will perform at it's best on premium, and if peak performance isn't as important to you as saving a few bucks, well then that's your right obviously. But it's just confusing to us why you'd spend the cash for headers but not the few extra dollars for better gas?

Again, your issue may not even be knock, but if it is, that's an issue you need to fix, and the easist way to try and clear it up would be to increase octane......just stating the facts....

Of course, if it is knock, it can be caused by MANY things. You could try running colder plugs, reduce timing via tuning, do a top engine clean (seafoam), get new/bigger injectors, replace/upgrade the fuel pump, replace any one of a number of sensors that may be aging, etc., etc...... but that all costs money, and it's hard to pinpoint where to start unless you're getting a SES light to check or have a scanner to watch a host of different parameters (fuel trims, timing, O2s, etc.). The small amount of extra cash for a few tanks of premium would be much cheaper and might be all it takes.

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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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thanks for the advise, i wasnt expecting such raw advise like "if you dont use good gas u shoudnt own a ls1", i know im soppose to use 91 or higher witch i 98% of the time i do, ill fill it up this week with 91oct and see what happens
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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GNbooster...would you run 87 in your GN? Of course not.

This is no different. Let's be realistic here though, how much $$ are you REALLY saving? $3/tank. That's pennies compared to having some serious motor problems if you are in fact detonating that bad you can hear it.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Maybe this helps http://www.ls1camaro.net/sections.ph...ticle&artid=11
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gnbooster87
times are tough, with rent and a new car payment thats all shell have to get for now.......
I don't want to hear it. I have $1170/mo in insurance, rent and car payments. I STILL fill her up w/ the good stuff... EVERY TIME! (Chevron Hooah!) My car costs more than my appartment does. And My insurance ant expensive. Try paying for it on E-4 Military pay...


Other than that, when I installed my headers I noticed an EXH leak like noise. I asked around and was told that it was a normal header noise. You'll know when thee's a leak. It'll run like crap and be loud as hell.

Something to remember......A constant hissing type noise is a leaky collector. A seperate, ticking, pulsing noise is most likely a loose header bolt or a bad gasket.

87 octane is designed for cars w/ a lower compression ratio. You run the risk of detontion using lower grade gas. (Total out the cost of the headers alright) The 93 octane is designed to light at a higher temprature... (or is it the other way around?? I might have effed that up...)

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Originally Posted by bayer-z28
I don't want to hear it. I have $1170/mo in insurance, rent and car payments. I STILL fill her up w/ the good stuff... EVERY TIME!
Same here man, same here.

Also, thank you for serving
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Its gotta be the 87 octane gas causing the problem, however with headers there is a lot more valvetrain noise. Dont take this the wrong way but how can you not afford to put in 91 octane? 91 is prbably 30 cents more per gallon than 87. Lets say everytime you fill up you put 15 gallons in, using 91 octane will only cost you $4.50 more than using 87. Hmm.. pay a extra $4.50 or risk melting a piston.... which is cheaper??
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