QTP Headders installed... info for others
I would say the extra hp is well worth the additional charge for QTP's. Atleast we have the peace of mind that our headers will not rust. I too am extremely satisfied with QTP's headers, I gained 25rwhp on a mustang dyno. The only downside is the ORY. For some reason mine hangs a little to low for my liking and I still manage to scrape everynow and then. As for the install, I dont know why you used a sawzall. The bolt holes on the flanges are a bit bigger then the bolts themselves so you should line them up so that no cutting is required. Btw, also I didnt remove the oil filter, just loosened the drivers side motormount and jacked it up 2". Nice write up though!!!
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Originally Posted by SacLSWon
That is BS, Buy Kooks, I installed them by myself in driveway on 6ton jackstands. SUPER EASY. I would never take a sawzall to the FRAME of the car. Or anypart of the car.
Neither would I unless it was a race car.... 
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Originally Posted by No Juice
Looks nice
Where in MN are you from? What shop did you take it to?
Where in MN are you from? What shop did you take it to?
Originally Posted by s346k
+1.
installed pacesetters on my car last weekend. they went in with NO problems at all. NONE. was that extra 2.5 flywheel hp worth $400 and sawzalling/beating your car?
installed pacesetters on my car last weekend. they went in with NO problems at all. NONE. was that extra 2.5 flywheel hp worth $400 and sawzalling/beating your car?
Originally Posted by zeeboid
I've had pasesetters. the 400 extra is deffently worth great looking headders that put out more power and will never rust. if you don't like sawzalling/beating your car, then you probably don't like installing aftermarket parts that were not offered as a factory option, huh?
i have installed many aftermarket parts and i have yet to cut/sawzall anything. also, you might soon realize...stainless doesn't mean it will never rust, stainless only means that it is LESS SUSCEPTIBLE to rust. and in all honesty, i think my coated pacesetters look better than those stainless headers. i could buy almost 3 sets of pacesetters to your one set of stainless wonders. not to sound like a dick, but the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind when i think of this ongoing debate. so you got 25rwhp with them, good job. i buy pacesetters and still have $600 left over to buy other parts. i know i can generate say 10 rwhp with $600...
i just don't get how these dudes can sell $1,000 headers that don't even f'n fit. wtf? oh well, i am happy with my cheapo ceramic coated pacesetters...the car doesn't see rain or snow, which leads me to believe that i made a good choice.
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Originally Posted by s346k
yeah, i haven't installed any aftermarket parts.
i have installed many aftermarket parts and i have yet to cut/sawzall anything. also, you might soon realize...stainless doesn't mean it will never rust, stainless only means that it is LESS SUSCEPTIBLE to rust. and in all honesty, i think my coated pacesetters look better than those stainless headers. i could buy almost 3 sets of pacesetters to your one set of stainless wonders. not to sound like a dick, but the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind when i think of this ongoing debate. so you got 25rwhp with them, good job. i buy pacesetters and still have $600 left over to buy other parts. i know i can generate say 10 rwhp with $600...
i just don't get how these dudes can sell $1,000 headers that don't even f'n fit. wtf? oh well, i am happy with my cheapo ceramic coated pacesetters...the car doesn't see rain or snow, which leads me to believe that i made a good choice.
i have installed many aftermarket parts and i have yet to cut/sawzall anything. also, you might soon realize...stainless doesn't mean it will never rust, stainless only means that it is LESS SUSCEPTIBLE to rust. and in all honesty, i think my coated pacesetters look better than those stainless headers. i could buy almost 3 sets of pacesetters to your one set of stainless wonders. not to sound like a dick, but the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind when i think of this ongoing debate. so you got 25rwhp with them, good job. i buy pacesetters and still have $600 left over to buy other parts. i know i can generate say 10 rwhp with $600...
i just don't get how these dudes can sell $1,000 headers that don't even f'n fit. wtf? oh well, i am happy with my cheapo ceramic coated pacesetters...the car doesn't see rain or snow, which leads me to believe that i made a good choice.
Thats nice, but flawed. I live in Minnesota, and I plan on driving my car in all but snow. so the cost makes purrrrfect sence for me. if my car was a track only car, I would probably have a diffrent opinion. I'm glad your cheep-oh hedders worked. my last cheep-oh hedders (coated) rusted. which is why I went with something other then cheep-oh hedders. this time.
Originally Posted by s346k
i just don't get how these dudes can sell $1,000 headers that don't even f'n fit. wtf?
thats right, because every car is the same, right? look. i'm glad your having good times with your stuff. the opinions on the headders you haven't even experianced for longer then a week... that is after all... a time tested opinion.
I said already, I have had pasesetters. didn't like them. they rusted in my summer only car. so i'll hack and slash a little bit to get something that lasts longer.
i'm glad you haven't had to modify your car while modify'in your car. as we all know... all f-bodies are the same, right?
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I think some of you guys are going over board here. I think this is the first time in history that someone had a clearance issue with QTPs. Unlike pacesetters that every other one has an issue. Ever header out there one time or another will have an issue. You know they are built by humans 
As long as the support is good then its ok. I have QTPs and they fit like a glove and the power is unmatched. This is my opnion of course.
As long as the support is good then its ok. I have QTPs and they fit like a glove and the power is unmatched. This is my opnion of course.
Originally Posted by zeeboid
thats right, because every car is the same, right? look. i'm glad your having good times with your stuff. the opinions on the headders you haven't even experianced for longer then a week... that is after all... a time tested opinion.
i'm glad you haven't had to modify your car while modify'in your car. as we all know... all f-bodies are the same, right?
i'm glad you haven't had to modify your car while modify'in your car. as we all know... all f-bodies are the same, right?
obviously you're taking great offense to my opinion, and expressing your own opinion about me which you obviously know nothing of. i'm happy with these cheapos, and you're happy with your not-so-cheapos.
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Originally Posted by 99ssleeper
zeeboid, ever get to Porkys in St. Paul ont he weekends?
Im there every weekend usually.
Im there every weekend usually.
i'm one of those guys who randomly comes up to you and starts a conversation... i figure its dumb to just go up there to stand in front of your car. 
Originally Posted by s346k
i'm happy with these cheapos, and you're happy with your not-so-cheapos.
I don't know man, i just figure a coated hedder that rusts isn't that cool, but thats me. I drive my car whenever I can. I'm glad your happy with your purchase. Friends?
Last edited by zeeboid; Mar 17, 2006 at 07:51 AM.
Originally Posted by zeeboid
I don't know man, i just figure a coated hedder that rusts isn't that cool, but thats me. I drive my car whenever I can. I'm glad your happy with your purchase. Friends?
and most definitely
Originally Posted by s346k
my old set of coated headers are 4 years old and they haven't rusted *yet*...
and most definitely
and most definitely
I am in the market for headers for my '99 and learned from both of you. Thanks for the opinions and the pictures.
Mind if I join you for a
Regards,
Frat
Originally Posted by zeeboid
yes sir, I used to hang up there ocasionally with my motorcycle, with which I decided I wasn't mature enough to own i'm one of those guys who randomly comes up to you and starts a conversation... i figure its dumb to just go up there to stand in front of your car.
i'm one of those guys who randomly comes up to you and starts a conversation... i figure its dumb to just go up there to stand in front of your car. Anyway, I usually bring a lawnchair and sit until midnight
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I had the passenger side frame problem on mine as well. No cutting the frame instead I had to dent my beautiful $700 headers. 
'Twas dissapointed to say the least. QTP told me that the pass side bolts have some play so you can lift the header and bolt down to clear the k-member. I raised the header as high as it would go and it still sat on the member. Had to dent 2 primaries and that's after prybaring the side frame tab peice. Fuggin sucks.
I was also lowered with a prokit at the time of install and the header collector sat almost as low as my cats did. I have since gone back to stock springs...
Besides that the QTPs are very nice. Meticulously welded, polished, and made great power with my duals.
'Twas dissapointed to say the least. QTP told me that the pass side bolts have some play so you can lift the header and bolt down to clear the k-member. I raised the header as high as it would go and it still sat on the member. Had to dent 2 primaries and that's after prybaring the side frame tab peice. Fuggin sucks.I was also lowered with a prokit at the time of install and the header collector sat almost as low as my cats did. I have since gone back to stock springs...
Besides that the QTPs are very nice. Meticulously welded, polished, and made great power with my duals.
To me that really sucks. From time to time this stuff will be off from the factory but I expect better from QTP. It looks like this is a manufacturing issue more than a design one. Im the lucky guy who got 2 deffective/poorly bent hooker catbacks in a row, and was looking forward to buying a quality part on the headers so **** like this wouldnt happen to me. Looks like its still luck of the draw, even with the good stuff.
I had to bang in the last primary on the pass side, it was hitting the bell housing causing the flange to sit a 1/2" away from the head. My pass side collector was also tight against the kmember, so I had to pry up on that also. The band clamps they supply with the kit sucks leaks everywhere pick up a set of u clamps. All in all very disappointed with the quality for the price. 
I put my qtp's in 3 years ago and they went in awesome with no rubbing anything. Driverside took some time but just had to find the correct way to maneuver it in.
The cats on the ypipe were another story, however. I blew out two complete sets and then I finally gave up and converted my ypipe to an offroad ypipe. No more rattling cat problems for me since then.
I gained 4 mph and went down 4 tenths in the quarter with everything else being equal. It was definitely the best mod I did up til then.
The cats on the ypipe were another story, however. I blew out two complete sets and then I finally gave up and converted my ypipe to an offroad ypipe. No more rattling cat problems for me since then.
I gained 4 mph and went down 4 tenths in the quarter with everything else being equal. It was definitely the best mod I did up til then.