Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system?
06-06-2002, 11:14 AM
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Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? I'm thinking about going with the QTP dual cutout package.
Question is...where would the best place be to install them? Right after the header collectors? Right before the x-pipe? Right after the x-pipe?
What do you guys think?
Current setup...MAC headers, Dr Gas x-pipe system, Dynomax bullets, turndowns before the axle.
Question is...where would the best place be to install them? Right after the header collectors? Right before the x-pipe? Right after the x-pipe?
What do you guys think?
Current setup...MAC headers, Dr Gas x-pipe system, Dynomax bullets, turndowns before the axle.
06-06-2002, 11:46 AM
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? theres no point in having cutouts if your not gonna have cats or mufflers. BTW i just got and xpipe put on and it sounds bad ***! i had headers, cutout, orp prior and it was just annoying loud, this setup is sweet loud. i had mine custom made to fit perfectly and assymetrically with 2 bullets and 2 turndowns. and with the hammer cam it sounds sweet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
but if you really want cutouts anyway, id say right after the xpipe would be best looking at mine
jerry
but if you really want cutouts anyway, id say right after the xpipe would be best looking at mine
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06-06-2002, 11:52 AM
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? What do you mean there's no point, it will be louder, give some more horsepower, and just another cool thing to have. I'm going to do this to somewhere on my FLPs, maybe they can install a cutout in each of the offroad pipes on that system. For you, I'd probably do them a little after the header collector instead of right after them because some people say air could come in and make the O2 sensor readings inaccurate if too close, so just move them back a tiny bit from the collectors, if you did them after the x-pipe, I couldn't see what the point would be.
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06-07-2002, 12:17 AM
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? If I go with a true dual I'm going to have dual cutouts RIGHT after the headers > X pipe > cats > mufflers
Don't bother if you don't have cats or mufflers though.
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Don't bother if you don't have cats or mufflers though.
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06-07-2002, 12:20 AM
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? Yeah, I was thinking somewhere in the middle (after collectors, before x-pipe junction).
But also, I was thinking right after the x-pipe. With them positioned there, I could still get the faster scavenging effect from the x-pipe, and then wooosh right into the cutout.
But also, I was thinking right after the x-pipe. With them positioned there, I could still get the faster scavenging effect from the x-pipe, and then wooosh right into the cutout.
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DevilBird:
<strong>Yeah, I was thinking somewhere in the middle (after collectors, before x-pipe junction).
But also, I was thinking right after the x-pipe. With them positioned there, I could still get the faster scavenging effect from the x-pipe, and then wooosh right into the cutout.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good point.
<strong>Yeah, I was thinking somewhere in the middle (after collectors, before x-pipe junction).
But also, I was thinking right after the x-pipe. With them positioned there, I could still get the faster scavenging effect from the x-pipe, and then wooosh right into the cutout.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good point.
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jimmypop13:
<strong>What do you mean there's no point, it will be louder, give some more horsepower, and just another cool thing to have. I'm going to do this to somewhere on my FLPs, maybe they can install a cutout in each of the offroad pipes on that system. For you, I'd probably do them a little after the header collector instead of right after them because some people say air could come in and make the O2 sensor readings inaccurate if too close, so just move them back a tiny bit from the collectors, if you did them after the x-pipe, I couldn't see what the point would be.
Chris</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was thinking about the cutouts in the FLP off road pipes too. Do you know any more info on it, or maybe someone who has done it?
<strong>What do you mean there's no point, it will be louder, give some more horsepower, and just another cool thing to have. I'm going to do this to somewhere on my FLPs, maybe they can install a cutout in each of the offroad pipes on that system. For you, I'd probably do them a little after the header collector instead of right after them because some people say air could come in and make the O2 sensor readings inaccurate if too close, so just move them back a tiny bit from the collectors, if you did them after the x-pipe, I couldn't see what the point would be.
Chris</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was thinking about the cutouts in the FLP off road pipes too. Do you know any more info on it, or maybe someone who has done it?
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? Well... This is what I am running right now. 3" duals off the Grott LT headers, through the X pipe, to cutouts (on each side), to a pair of 3.5" thick muflers, that sound like a 30 series Flowmaster, actually quieter.
If you think you are going to put dual cutouts right after the headers, you are in for a surprise. You will loose alot of ground clearance. I'd be surprised if you made it longer than a week without ripping something off. I have it right in front of the mufflers, which ends up being right in the cubby hole on the passengers side, and on the drivers, the cutout would shoot right onto the fuel filter.
Needless to say, I have not uncapped the cutouts yet, because I need to fab up a cover to cover the fuel filter. Dont need to cause any fires.
When I get that done, I will test at the track.. After I get a rear end first..
If you think you are going to put dual cutouts right after the headers, you are in for a surprise. You will loose alot of ground clearance. I'd be surprised if you made it longer than a week without ripping something off. I have it right in front of the mufflers, which ends up being right in the cubby hole on the passengers side, and on the drivers, the cutout would shoot right onto the fuel filter.
Needless to say, I have not uncapped the cutouts yet, because I need to fab up a cover to cover the fuel filter. Dont need to cause any fires.
When I get that done, I will test at the track.. After I get a rear end first..
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? 00 sunshine: do you have pics? E-mail me INSSANE99SS@aol.com
As far as the cutouts go, I haven't done exact calculations, but i may tilt them to the side so that I have clearence.
Nick
As far as the cutouts go, I haven't done exact calculations, but i may tilt them to the side so that I have clearence.
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06-12-2002, 11:27 PM
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by INSSANE:
<strong>00 sunshine: do you have pics? E-mail me INSSANE99SS@aol.com
As far as the cutouts go, I haven't done exact calculations, but i may tilt them to the side so that I have clearence.
Nick</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's what I was thinking. Would that not be an option?
<strong>00 sunshine: do you have pics? E-mail me INSSANE99SS@aol.com
As far as the cutouts go, I haven't done exact calculations, but i may tilt them to the side so that I have clearence.
Nick</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's what I was thinking. Would that not be an option?
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? No, I do not have pics, yet.. I will post them when I do. But tilting them anyway you can think of, is not going to give you the clearance that you need to mount them right after the header.
The problem is the drivers side pan & the way that it is formed. This is the lowest part of the car, and thus, any cutout there, would be forced to be lower. I thought of everything that I could, because I wanted to do it like that. But after having it up on the lift & looking & measuring, I ended up putting it after the X & before the muflers. I'm happy where it is at now. I just hope it works out when I get some heat wrap put over the fuel filter..
The problem is the drivers side pan & the way that it is formed. This is the lowest part of the car, and thus, any cutout there, would be forced to be lower. I thought of everything that I could, because I wanted to do it like that. But after having it up on the lift & looking & measuring, I ended up putting it after the X & before the muflers. I'm happy where it is at now. I just hope it works out when I get some heat wrap put over the fuel filter..
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? If you had a manual, that would be an option. Mine is an auto, & not enought room, imo. I felt better about having more clearance. But I also have my car lowered, so I try to gain as much clearance as I can.
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000LS1:
<strong>I was thinking about the cutouts in the FLP off road pipes too. Do you know any more info on it, or maybe someone who has done it?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, I found someone who did it! Chris Johnson over on www.ls1.com did and he was telling me about what he did. He said you have to find a shop that will make you just the bottom part of the cut-out and have them cut an oval in your off road pipes and weld it on there. He said not to buy a cutout off the internet and have it welded in because it could cause the v-flanges not to seal completley anymore. I'm looking for a shop that will do this, I think I might stop by Minekie tomorrow and see if they will. I'm going to show them the picture of the jethot coated cut-out on www.tbyrne.com 's site and see if they can do it.
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<strong>I was thinking about the cutouts in the FLP off road pipes too. Do you know any more info on it, or maybe someone who has done it?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, I found someone who did it! Chris Johnson over on www.ls1.com did and he was telling me about what he did. He said you have to find a shop that will make you just the bottom part of the cut-out and have them cut an oval in your off road pipes and weld it on there. He said not to buy a cutout off the internet and have it welded in because it could cause the v-flanges not to seal completley anymore. I'm looking for a shop that will do this, I think I might stop by Minekie tomorrow and see if they will. I'm going to show them the picture of the jethot coated cut-out on www.tbyrne.com 's site and see if they can do it.
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS:
<strong>If you had a manual, that would be an option. Mine is an auto, & not enought room, imo. I felt better about having more clearance. But I also have my car lowered, so I try to gain as much clearance as I can.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes I do have a manual and mine is stock height and staying that way. So it is possible to have a cutout on the driver's side collector angled towards the inside on my car? I wanna do FLP headers > QTP cutouts > carsound 3" cats > 3" bullet style mufflers > turndowns before the rear axle... sound good?
<small>[ June 15, 2002, 12:54 AM: Message edited by: 2000LS1 ]</small>
<strong>If you had a manual, that would be an option. Mine is an auto, & not enought room, imo. I felt better about having more clearance. But I also have my car lowered, so I try to gain as much clearance as I can.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes I do have a manual and mine is stock height and staying that way. So it is possible to have a cutout on the driver's side collector angled towards the inside on my car? I wanna do FLP headers > QTP cutouts > carsound 3" cats > 3" bullet style mufflers > turndowns before the rear axle... sound good?
<small>[ June 15, 2002, 12:54 AM: Message edited by: 2000LS1 ]</small>
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? In that situation, it would probably fit. You may have to put the drivers side cat on the second bend in the Y pipe. That might show from the side of the car though. Just something to consider.
Things are going to be more visable from the side.
Things are going to be more visable from the side.
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? Put them right after the headers, or don't use them at all. I have dual 2.5" cutouts about 12" back from my headers.
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Re: Best place for dual cutouts on x-pipe system? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Put them right after the headers, or don't use them at all. I have dual 2.5" cutouts about 12" back from my headers.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why 12"???
<strong>Put them right after the headers, or don't use them at all. I have dual 2.5" cutouts about 12" back from my headers.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why 12"???