new SLP long tube headers!!
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new SLP long tube headers!! I was here: http://www.ls1motorsports.com/ls1cexhaust.asp and saw they had new SLP longtubes for sale, that are supposed to be real good. Anyone have these?
Also, does anyone know which ypipe would fit these?
What do you guys think of these? Here's a little writeup, which makes them sound damn good!!
The engineers at SLP Performance Parts have done their homework. SLP is proud to announce the release of the industry's first full length headers made with tuned tube lengths for LS1 powered Camaros and Firebirds. The length of each header tube was calculated to maximize scavenging from the exhaust. The tube lengths allow each exhaust pulse to create a vacuum in the collector at precisely the same time as the next firing cylinder's valve opens. This acts to pull the exhaust gas pulse out of the cylinder. The result is more efficient exhaust scavenging which translates to faster revs and increased torque and horsepower. While equal length headers are good, tuned length headers are the ultimate! SLP's new headers utilize stainless steel 1 3/4" primary tubes into a 3" stainless steel collector, then the headers are COATED with a CERAMIC THERMAL BARRIER high lustre coating. The headers utilize OE style and quality flanges, and are completely compatible with EGR, oxygen sensor and air pump systems. SLP has also designed a new stainless steel 3" y-pipe to work specifically with the headers. The y-pipe requires our optional high flow catalytic converters.
Limited Lifetime Warranty
SLP STATES GAINS OF UP TO 41 HORSEPOWER AND 58 FT. LBS. TORQUE INCREASE AT THE REAR WHEELS!
Also, does anyone know which ypipe would fit these?
What do you guys think of these? Here's a little writeup, which makes them sound damn good!!
The engineers at SLP Performance Parts have done their homework. SLP is proud to announce the release of the industry's first full length headers made with tuned tube lengths for LS1 powered Camaros and Firebirds. The length of each header tube was calculated to maximize scavenging from the exhaust. The tube lengths allow each exhaust pulse to create a vacuum in the collector at precisely the same time as the next firing cylinder's valve opens. This acts to pull the exhaust gas pulse out of the cylinder. The result is more efficient exhaust scavenging which translates to faster revs and increased torque and horsepower. While equal length headers are good, tuned length headers are the ultimate! SLP's new headers utilize stainless steel 1 3/4" primary tubes into a 3" stainless steel collector, then the headers are COATED with a CERAMIC THERMAL BARRIER high lustre coating. The headers utilize OE style and quality flanges, and are completely compatible with EGR, oxygen sensor and air pump systems. SLP has also designed a new stainless steel 3" y-pipe to work specifically with the headers. The y-pipe requires our optional high flow catalytic converters.
Limited Lifetime Warranty
SLP STATES GAINS OF UP TO 41 HORSEPOWER AND 58 FT. LBS. TORQUE INCREASE AT THE REAR WHEELS!
Re: new SLP long tube headers!! You wont see that type of gain on a stock car. Maybe if you have some heads and a cam on the stock exhaust manifolds and switch to them you could.
Im making 350 RWHP and 360 RWTQ with just headers, exhaust, maf ends, ported TB and a lid w/filter. Thats the only gains to see on the dyno. Oh, also a MAFT.
Im making 350 RWHP and 360 RWTQ with just headers, exhaust, maf ends, ported TB and a lid w/filter. Thats the only gains to see on the dyno. Oh, also a MAFT.
Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Keep in mind that the product descriptions are obtained off of the manufacturers website (in this case, SLP), and I have read a TON of bad things about these headers, from fitment issues, to poor performance gains (if any, I can remember seeing some people actually lose power), to poor customer service (I have experienced this first hand <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> ). Do a search, then ask around, and you'll see...
"SLP STATES GAINS OF UP TO 41 HORSEPOWER AND 58 FT. LBS. TORQUE INCREASE AT THE REAR WHEELS!"
<img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
By the time you buy a y-pipe, you are in the same price range as Whisper, TTS, and FLPs, all of which should produce better results, IMO. Heck, before I spent $900 on SLPs, I'd go with Macs, ORP, Catback, and still have money to spare. Again, just my .02, FWIW. Good Luck, Shawn
"SLP STATES GAINS OF UP TO 41 HORSEPOWER AND 58 FT. LBS. TORQUE INCREASE AT THE REAR WHEELS!"
<img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
By the time you buy a y-pipe, you are in the same price range as Whisper, TTS, and FLPs, all of which should produce better results, IMO. Heck, before I spent $900 on SLPs, I'd go with Macs, ORP, Catback, and still have money to spare. Again, just my .02, FWIW. Good Luck, Shawn
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! LOL! These are not new headers. They have been out for like 2 years or more... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bo0oost:
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Also, does anyone know which ypipe would fit these?[QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The SLP LT header comes with it's own y-pipe, these headers if installed correctly work great.
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[QB]
Also, does anyone know which ypipe would fit these?[QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The SLP LT header comes with it's own y-pipe, these headers if installed correctly work great.
Al
Re: new SLP long tube headers!! I only have 1 complaint. The finish sucks!! Heres some pics:
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p1e9c21e0e2dd25cd1eb5aa5cffae8f90/fd9c6872.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p3d0e01dd1757493d9ab3cf8024f4a9c1/fd9c687a.jpg" alt=" - " />
Also I broke the y-pipe:
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p8bcca2274e8cf066a4270a75b7038d41/fd9c6875.jpg" alt=" - " />
The headers are only like 8 months old. Thats not oil either on them. The whole header is turning brown <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p1e9c21e0e2dd25cd1eb5aa5cffae8f90/fd9c6872.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p3d0e01dd1757493d9ab3cf8024f4a9c1/fd9c687a.jpg" alt=" - " />
Also I broke the y-pipe:
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p8bcca2274e8cf066a4270a75b7038d41/fd9c6875.jpg" alt=" - " />
The headers are only like 8 months old. Thats not oil either on them. The whole header is turning brown <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! I dont have the finish problems that are shown
here.. I got the slp lt kit.. very high quality.
with hotcam+lid+catback ( stock manifolds,cats,y-pipe)
330/330
added slp headers,cats and y-pipe
351/364
here.. I got the slp lt kit.. very high quality.
with hotcam+lid+catback ( stock manifolds,cats,y-pipe)
330/330
added slp headers,cats and y-pipe
351/364
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Country Boy, for only being 8 months old those sure don't look good. Coated stainless steel headers should hold up a lot better then that, you should contact SLP and e-mail them those pictures. If they can't do wright by you I let everyone know they don't stand by there products, hopefully they will.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Last Friday I picked up my car after having SLP LT headers installed, as well as the SLP loudmouth cat-back system. Let me tell you, the car runs great, it sounds great, and it looks awesome. Next week I'll be taking it to the shop to get it on the Dyno .. hopefully I'm not disappointed. One thing though that you should know ahead of time is that the setup (LT headers,cats, Y-pipe) hang really close to the ground. I have my car lowered about an inch, and the setup is less than 2 inches from the ground. I just need to be careful .. other than that, can't complain yet.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SPANKY LS1:
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By the time you buy a y-pipe, you are in the same price range as Whisper, TTS, and FLPs, all of which should produce better results, IMO. Heck, before I spent $900 on SLPs, I'd go with Macs, ORP, Catback, and still have money to spare. Again, just my .02, FWIW. Good Luck, Shawn</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You don't like your hooker lt?
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By the time you buy a y-pipe, you are in the same price range as Whisper, TTS, and FLPs, all of which should produce better results, IMO. Heck, before I spent $900 on SLPs, I'd go with Macs, ORP, Catback, and still have money to spare. Again, just my .02, FWIW. Good Luck, Shawn</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You don't like your hooker lt?
Re: new SLP long tube headers!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DARK AGE 53:
<strong>Country Boy, for only being 8 months old those sure don't look good. Coated stainless steel headers should hold up a lot better then that, you should contact SLP and e-mail them those pictures. If they can't do wright by you I let everyone know they don't stand by there products, hopefully they will.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I actually did contact them (on their message board) and Dave and JeffY answered. They said that they dont know what it was and to pretty much deal with it. Its "normal" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Needless to say, that I will NEVER buy another SLP product! I dont know what caused to Y-pipe to break. It wasnt ground clearence, I never had a problem with that, but they dont care either.
Thoses were some quick digitl pics I took, but it looks ALOT worse in person. I have some prints that are worse.
<strong>Country Boy, for only being 8 months old those sure don't look good. Coated stainless steel headers should hold up a lot better then that, you should contact SLP and e-mail them those pictures. If they can't do wright by you I let everyone know they don't stand by there products, hopefully they will.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I actually did contact them (on their message board) and Dave and JeffY answered. They said that they dont know what it was and to pretty much deal with it. Its "normal" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Needless to say, that I will NEVER buy another SLP product! I dont know what caused to Y-pipe to break. It wasnt ground clearence, I never had a problem with that, but they dont care either.
Thoses were some quick digitl pics I took, but it looks ALOT worse in person. I have some prints that are worse.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Dave or Jeffy if you're reading this post I'm disappointed in SLP, I've always been a supporter of SLP but in this case I have to give you two thumbs down.... I'd give you more but I only have two thumbs.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Other people with coated headers have experienced similair discoloration or rust marks forming. I've seen it on MACs (happened to me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> ) and on FLP as well.
The SLP's I've seen have been well made and the set up is good for someone who needs to bolt-on a set of cats every 2 years to pass emissions. On a 346" motor shifting at 6200 or lower they provide good gains, especially in mid range torque. I would not use them in high revving applications; other headers perform better on the top end.
The SLP's I've seen have been well made and the set up is good for someone who needs to bolt-on a set of cats every 2 years to pass emissions. On a 346" motor shifting at 6200 or lower they provide good gains, especially in mid range torque. I would not use them in high revving applications; other headers perform better on the top end.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong>You wont see that type of gain on a stock car. Maybe if you have some heads and a cam on the stock exhaust manifolds and switch to them you could.
Im making 350 RWHP and 360 RWTQ with just headers, exhaust, maf ends, ported TB and a lid w/filter. Thats the only gains to see on the dyno. Oh, also a MAFT.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you sure about that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> guys with lids catback and MAF gain with headers
And the SLP forgets to mention that the horsepower gains with their header are (with their cam aslo)
<strong>You wont see that type of gain on a stock car. Maybe if you have some heads and a cam on the stock exhaust manifolds and switch to them you could.
Im making 350 RWHP and 360 RWTQ with just headers, exhaust, maf ends, ported TB and a lid w/filter. Thats the only gains to see on the dyno. Oh, also a MAFT.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you sure about that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> guys with lids catback and MAF gain with headers
And the SLP forgets to mention that the horsepower gains with their header are (with their cam aslo)
Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Of coarse youre going to gain with headers, I didnt say that. I just said that on a basically stock car, you wont gain the proclaimed: SLP STATES GAINS OF UP TO 41 HORSEPOWER AND 58 FT. LBS. TORQUE INCREASE AT THE REAR WHEELS
Re: new SLP long tube headers!! The crack is a little more than 1/2 way around the weld, so it was probably starting to peel open. I dont have that Y on there anymore. I have true duals now.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Here's my take on what caused the crack, when installing SLP LT headers you need to leave the headers loose when installing the y-pipe. Once the y-pipe is connected to the headers you can tighten the header bolts down, the tighting of the header bolts draws the header outwards at the y-pipe (causing pressure). If there was a weak weld at the y-pipe it would cause it to crack, JMO.
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Re: new SLP long tube headers!! Strange HORSEPOWER said it was defective coating, sent out a new pair right away and paid to have the old ones picked up. Mine was peeling right off at the collectors too.
-Dave
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DARK AGE 53:
<strong>Country Boy, for only being 8 months old those sure don't look good. Coated stainless steel headers should hold up a lot better then that, you should contact SLP and e-mail them those pictures. If they can't do wright by you I let everyone know they don't stand by there products, hopefully they will.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I actually did contact them (on their message board) and Dave and JeffY answered. They said that they dont know what it was and to pretty much deal with it. Its "normal" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Needless to say, that I will NEVER buy another SLP product! I dont know what caused to Y-pipe to break. It wasnt ground clearence, I never had a problem with that, but they dont care either.
Thoses were some quick digitl pics I took, but it looks ALOT worse in person. I have some prints that are worse.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
-Dave
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DARK AGE 53:
<strong>Country Boy, for only being 8 months old those sure don't look good. Coated stainless steel headers should hold up a lot better then that, you should contact SLP and e-mail them those pictures. If they can't do wright by you I let everyone know they don't stand by there products, hopefully they will.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I actually did contact them (on their message board) and Dave and JeffY answered. They said that they dont know what it was and to pretty much deal with it. Its "normal" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Needless to say, that I will NEVER buy another SLP product! I dont know what caused to Y-pipe to break. It wasnt ground clearence, I never had a problem with that, but they dont care either.
Thoses were some quick digitl pics I took, but it looks ALOT worse in person. I have some prints that are worse.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">