Hooker catback-- Flow well??
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I'm wanting to put the Hooker catback on my Trans Am and have a coupls questions. I like the sound of the system, and want to get some quad tips to fill in the empty space left by the factory WS6 exhaust. I'm wanting to know how well the system flows opposed to my WS6 catback, to figure out if it's worth it, or if I should just get a cut out?
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How about a Hooker cat back and a cutout. Cutouts are only about $60 installed, then you could uncap it at the track. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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With the hooker catback you don't need a cut out. Basically it already has one. The muffler/tailpipes bolt to the I-pipe with a header collector flange. Just take out the 3 bolts, slide muffler off the hanger and go. get the benifets of a cut out plus the weight savings of no muffler
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The Hooker catback is one of the best flowing catbacks on the market. There have been heads/cam cars to only make 2-3 more HP through a cutout, compared to running through the muffler. One of the best sounding, and probably in the top 3 best flowing, bad *** for 270 bucks if you ask me....
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Wow! Thanks for the info guys! Hooker it is! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by todd edwards:
<strong>it seems to flow awesome.just don't use the crap chrome tips that come with the catback get some stainless ones.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hooker wised up. ALL of the new F-body Hooker catbacks come with polished SS tips now. And they didn't even go up on the price. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>it seems to flow awesome.just don't use the crap chrome tips that come with the catback get some stainless ones.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hooker wised up. ALL of the new F-body Hooker catbacks come with polished SS tips now. And they didn't even go up on the price. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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I wonder if us who have the old chrome ones can get the new SS ones for cheap or even free from them. Seems like I heard of another exhaust company doing something like this awhile ago.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ackattack:
<strong>I wonder if us who have the old chrome ones can get the new SS ones for cheap or even free from them. Seems like I heard of another exhaust company doing something like this awhile ago.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">don't get my hopes up
hooker cat-back still rules though!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>I wonder if us who have the old chrome ones can get the new SS ones for cheap or even free from them. Seems like I heard of another exhaust company doing something like this awhile ago.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">don't get my hopes up
hooker cat-back still rules though!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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i would say the hooker for sure before but now with stainlees tips you can't beat the price for under 300.00.i liked the look of the old duel tips and the chrome on the outside held up good. the inside just rusted.i just put on stainless round tips like the ss ones on mine yesterday.go figure.by the way i got mine from thunder racing like i do 99% of my stuff they're great.them and the tire rack are my two favorite.
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I was going to get the Hooker CB but everyone was out of stock. I got the Random Tech Catback for $320 at Thunder. Got the RT mostly because they were the only one to post a Dyno Test on their Catback. <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />
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Going to replace my loudmouth over winter eith with a SLP dual dual or maybe this Hooker. I also plan on having dual QTP cut-ous off my OR y-pipe.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99MONGOOSE:
<strong>Going to replace my loudmouth over winter eith with a SLP dual dual or maybe this Hooker. I also plan on having dual QTP cut-ous off my OR y-pipe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">-99Mongoose, those dyno #'s look a little low for a h/c car. I dont know if you've tuned it or not, but the Ford SVO injectors carry a different # rating when installed on GM cars...somethin like they're 38# on a GM but only 30# on a Ford..try leaning it out some, you might be drowning it with too much fuel. just thought i'd give a little helpful advice
and to stay on subject, I havent heard 1 bad thing about the hooker catback
<strong>Going to replace my loudmouth over winter eith with a SLP dual dual or maybe this Hooker. I also plan on having dual QTP cut-ous off my OR y-pipe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">-99Mongoose, those dyno #'s look a little low for a h/c car. I dont know if you've tuned it or not, but the Ford SVO injectors carry a different # rating when installed on GM cars...somethin like they're 38# on a GM but only 30# on a Ford..try leaning it out some, you might be drowning it with too much fuel. just thought i'd give a little helpful advice
and to stay on subject, I havent heard 1 bad thing about the hooker catback
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I have the Hooker catback (and other mods) as well as a cutout. At peak on the dyno, I gained a whoping 7.8 HP and 12.2 TQ at peak. Throughout the rpm range (IIRC) I gained a max of 12 HP and ~20 TQ with the cutout open vs. going through the Hooker system. Very efficient IMO. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Plus a better, more sane tone of the exhaust. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99MONGOOSE:
<strong>Rapid Motorsports did my complete install and my dyno was at a local dyno shop near Rapid not owned by Rapid. Mikey says the dyno he uses seems to dyno a bit low compared to the other dynos. Also I am running a 12 bolt, 4.10s, and I am also at full street weight and I am running chrome AFS ZR1 rims 17x9.5(275s) and 17x11(315s). With a ten bolt and 3.42s and stock wheels my car would dyno much higher I am sure. Maybe Mikey will chime in here. Either way, I look at the dyno as a tool. I don't get worked up over this crap! The track(mph) will tell the truth! I haven't gotten a clean run in yet, but I did manage to get a 1.6 60ft, then blow off the ET streets and almost smack the wall. I launched at 5000rpm, with a 1.6 60ft as soon as I felt it was good to stomp it I did, and I broke the tires completely loose and spun at a 2 o'clock angle to the wall, but kept in it, spinning through 2nd, straighten out in third and hit 4th.. Ran 12.5@114mph w/1.61 60ft. In my opinion my car runs like a raped ape for what it is. Just not a dyno queen. No dyno tricks for me, I would rather have a "low" number but a real number then a "fake" dyno queen number. BTW Ed Wright did the tuning, it may be off but I think its ok, 28' timing and 0 knock.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No flame or anything, but whats the track altitude over in Ohio? We have guys here in MD running 12.4-12.5@115-116 without a 12-bolt or headwork (only cam/headers/boltons). Also a lot of high 11 bolt on cars.
<strong>Rapid Motorsports did my complete install and my dyno was at a local dyno shop near Rapid not owned by Rapid. Mikey says the dyno he uses seems to dyno a bit low compared to the other dynos. Also I am running a 12 bolt, 4.10s, and I am also at full street weight and I am running chrome AFS ZR1 rims 17x9.5(275s) and 17x11(315s). With a ten bolt and 3.42s and stock wheels my car would dyno much higher I am sure. Maybe Mikey will chime in here. Either way, I look at the dyno as a tool. I don't get worked up over this crap! The track(mph) will tell the truth! I haven't gotten a clean run in yet, but I did manage to get a 1.6 60ft, then blow off the ET streets and almost smack the wall. I launched at 5000rpm, with a 1.6 60ft as soon as I felt it was good to stomp it I did, and I broke the tires completely loose and spun at a 2 o'clock angle to the wall, but kept in it, spinning through 2nd, straighten out in third and hit 4th.. Ran 12.5@114mph w/1.61 60ft. In my opinion my car runs like a raped ape for what it is. Just not a dyno queen. No dyno tricks for me, I would rather have a "low" number but a real number then a "fake" dyno queen number. BTW Ed Wright did the tuning, it may be off but I think its ok, 28' timing and 0 knock.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No flame or anything, but whats the track altitude over in Ohio? We have guys here in MD running 12.4-12.5@115-116 without a 12-bolt or headwork (only cam/headers/boltons). Also a lot of high 11 bolt on cars.
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If you read my post you would have seen that I ran 12.5@114 spinning and cocked out to a 2 o'clock position almost until I slammed 3rd gear. With basically wasting my 1st 2 gears I still ran a 12.5@114mph. This was at Thompson Drag Raceway about 1500ft above sea level, also this run was about the beginning of June( about 80-90 degrees). If anyone has seen or been to this track you would know exactly how crappy it can be. The run was on a wen. night Grudge Night. There isn't any track prep on wen. nights: no glue, hell you are lucky if they blow it off with their leaf blower on wheels! I have yet to see a bolt on car go 11s with a M6. Sure anyone can do it with an A4. Other cars that have my same package ARE H/C(with same cam and stage 2 heads)run 11s no problem. Heck Mikey @ Rapid went 11.3@121 in his full exhaust full weight WS6 with the exact same package as my SS. I have SFC and I was running chrome AFS Zr1 rims on the front with brand new 275s, and the only weight reduction I have in no spare or jack, and I weight about 195lbs. Add that up: stock SS- what 3600lbs(fully loaded t-top coupe), 195 lb me. , 1/2 tank of gas, SFC, front chrome wheels 17x9.5 w/new 275s aired up to 44psi, 12 bolt(heavier then 10 bolt)= I would say pretty close to a race weight of 3850-3890... add that to no track prep on a traditionally bad track(Norwalk is our closest NHRA track and is about 700 ft lower in altitude, and is roughly 2-5 tenths quicker and 1-3mph faster then Thompson), fairly hot temp., and slipping and slidding through 1st gear and 3/4 of 2nd gear, and this was my FIRST pass ever on BRAND NEW ET Streets==== I feel the car ran DAMN STRONG! To get back on topic <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> I am debating on switching to the Hooker Catback too, mainly to quiet down my car a bit , and kill that raspy LM. I was going to just add the bullet but I don't think that will quiet it down enough.