Hey guys, I know this topic has been discussed several times, but I wanted to get your opinions in regard to my specific situation. I will be purchasing long-tubes tomorrow more than likely. They will be the Pacesetters, but I am going back and forth between the ceramic-coated ones and the painted ones. I live in Buford, Georgia and I see snow maybe once a year. And even then, I don't drive. Also, since I live in Georgia, there is no salt from the oceans either. So would it even be worth buying the ceramic-coated ones? The only advantages I see over the painted ones is to prevent rust, which I will not see for quite some time I think. In my situation being a high-school student with limited funds, I think the painted is the right choice. But I don't want to screw up and end up having to purchase a new set in a couple years. What do you think?
Thanks in advance!
-Tyler

 

The heat from the exhaust makes parts rust faster than normal (don't ask me why, I'm sure someone smarter than I can explain it.)

Spend the extra $100 to get the coated ones, they'll be worth it in the long run.

 

get it right the first time and don't have to worry about it..... coated!

 

Coated for sure.. paint will last a month.

 

The coating isn't only for rust prevention, it's for thermal control too, helps keep the exhaust heat in the header, and not in the engine bay.
Spend the extra money for the coating, you'll be happier

 

So how are these coated ones in the "quality" category. Meaning, how long would they last?

 

mine were top notch 2 years strong. No issues, I would never consider buying a painted header, might as well be bare metal, the finish will be garbage in about a month

 

Go with the coated ones. Its worth it.

 

Well I really wanted to purchase everything from Summitt Racing since they are not too far away. But they have their coated-ones listed at $430 compared to Texas Speed's $375. I wanted to get everything from Summitt to avoid shipping, so with shipping from Texas Speed, would the prices equal out? For me to find out how much shipping is, I have to give all of my information and I don't really want to do that. My ZIP is 30518. Any ideas?

 

Go with TSP. They were running a deal with free shipping on the headers, not sure if they still are. But either way I would go with TSP.

 

Any reason why other than they are a sponsor here? I'm not trying to play devil's advocat or anything, I am just curious.

Also, if you could somehow get Summitt to match their price, would you still go with T.S.P. if Summitt was pretty close to your house?

 

Well I bought my Pacesetters from TSP about a month ago, paid $40 for shipping on the headers, a true-dual system, and a tranny cooler... and that was to CT, so I'm sure you'll still be getting them for cheaper than summits prices.

 

You could also give Byunspeed a try, they have free shipping, that's where I got my pacesetters from

 

I don't mind going either route (T.S.P. or ByunSpeed), just as long as I can get my headers before, say, the 23rd. And free shipping is really the only thing that's keeping me from doing it. I'm going to Summitt regardless tomorrow though. I've never been there and it's supposed to be pretty awesome. If they can match the price, I'll just go with that to go ahead and have everything. We'll see.

 

science 101 - heat makes chemical reactions happen faster. at 0 K, absolute zero, there is absolutely no heat. therefore, no reaction can take place. the more heat added, basically, the faster any reaction will occur. rust is a chemical reaction between oxygen in the air and the iron component of steel in the headers (rust's technical term is 'iron oxide'). therefore, the iron will rust faster in a hot environment than in a cold environment since more heat = faster chemical reactions.

this is why scientists find it unlikely that life exists in places in our solar system past mars. it's very, very cold once you reach jupiter and beyond. they think life won't exist not because it's too cold (as any lifeform could adapt to require a certain temperature to survive) but rather there is so little heat, chemical reactions take place too slowly to evolve into life over time (i.e. saturn's moon titan looks like a theoretical primordial earth, possibly containing liquid methane and has an abundance of organic particles that rain from the sky. however, the surface is -280 degrees Farenheit so chemical reactions would happen hundreds of times slower than on earth making evolution on titan unlikely.)

hey, you wanted an explaination

 

^^^See? I told you someone smarter could tell you.

I know sh*t happens... I dont know why sh*t happens

 

You don't have to pay tax when you order out of state either.

That's why I wish TSP, HPE, MTI, etc. were not in Texas.

Tax on a $4000 shortblock from HPE would be $330.








Futral and Thunder are right across the border though.

 

Absolutely, positively coated.

Painted headers are for old pickup trucks...