Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends???
Thread Starter
King of Pigskin Knowledge
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? I just did a search on MAF ends and found that a lot of people have dyno proven gains from these. That kind of surprised me, I thought they might be one of those mods like the throttle body airfoils for L98's and LT1's, which is kind of a bs mod.
Anyway, I've seen like 6-10 rwhp gains claimed. Can most of you vouch for this mod? Is it one of the "must do's"? I have a stock 98 T/A (still being shipped to me) w/ a Stealth airbox and Pro 5.0 that will be my first mods. I was going to do the exhaust next. Are the MAF ends worth it right now or should I wait until I have a cam?
<small>[ December 27, 2002, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: BuckeyeROC ]</small>
Anyway, I've seen like 6-10 rwhp gains claimed. Can most of you vouch for this mod? Is it one of the "must do's"? I have a stock 98 T/A (still being shipped to me) w/ a Stealth airbox and Pro 5.0 that will be my first mods. I was going to do the exhaust next. Are the MAF ends worth it right now or should I wait until I have a cam?
<small>[ December 27, 2002, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: BuckeyeROC ]</small>
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? I would stay away from the maf. The ends will yeild a gain but you will more then likely need to tune the car with a maf translator. The money is better used somewhere else at this point. Alot of guys run great times with the stock or desceened stock maf.
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? i never dynoed my tr hiflo ends,but they did take me from 13.12 to 12.94. not bad for a low cost mod $$. now i run 11.7's and still have them on my ride.
Administrator
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 45,841
Likes: 5
From: Earth
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? Depending on mike c's A/F ratio before the MAF ends, I can see how he dropped ET like that. Since you have a M6, you should go with the MAF ends. Just be sure to tune it in.
Trending Topics
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? Maf ends are a good buy. They can give you up to 10RWHP. I would do it. I run a GMS maf, but if they had the ported maf ends when I bought this maf, I would have the bought them instead of the GMS. Cheaper and they do practically the same thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? well boo yeah,....before hiflo ends my ta would go 13.12 to 13.15 at 108 to 109.four days after the mod i went to the track and pulled 13.01,12.94,12.98 and 13.04. it was not tuned till i got heads and cam.60 foots always close,dont remember the weather but i never go to the track if it's 88deg or over. SO REMEMBER,I'M NOT HERE TO BULLSHIT ANY ONE. IF I CAN HELP GREAT,IF NOT THEN I WONT COMMENT ON PEOPLES POST. thank you., mike c.
Administrator
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 45,841
Likes: 5
From: Earth
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mike c.:
<strong> SO REMEMBER,I'M NOT HERE TO BULLSHIT ANY ONE. IF I CAN HELP GREAT,IF NOT THEN I WONT COMMENT ON PEOPLES POST. thank you., mike c. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well said.
<strong> SO REMEMBER,I'M NOT HERE TO BULLSHIT ANY ONE. IF I CAN HELP GREAT,IF NOT THEN I WONT COMMENT ON PEOPLES POST. thank you., mike c. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well said.
Administrator
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 45,841
Likes: 5
From: Earth
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? UGOT8, IMO MAF ends aren't a good mod for A4's. They are tough on auto tranny's resulting from decreased line pressure. Others may tell you different. That's my 2 cents though.
TECH Addict
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,850
Likes: 0
From: Plainville,MA
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? Click the link that was my experience with ported maf ends ! <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" />
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=24;t=000294
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=24;t=000294
Administrator
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 45,841
Likes: 5
From: Earth
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? Orange Krush,
I clicked the link you provided and I read the entire post. Sorry to hear about your tranny problems. It wasn't in vane though. You and the rest of us at LS1tech are doing serious R&D. We can all learn from this. Kudos to you for going back and completing your post with the final outcome and the "verdict".
Dan
I clicked the link you provided and I read the entire post. Sorry to hear about your tranny problems. It wasn't in vane though. You and the rest of us at LS1tech are doing serious R&D. We can all learn from this. Kudos to you for going back and completing your post with the final outcome and the "verdict".
Dan
TECH Addict
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,850
Likes: 0
From: Plainville,MA
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? Anytime, glad I could shed some light ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Lol ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
It does suck to learn when U aren't ready to upgrade, but fortunatley another board member was upgrading to ARE 436 so I got his slightly used stock 4L60-E for the right price ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
All's well that ends well ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
It does suck to learn when U aren't ready to upgrade, but fortunatley another board member was upgrading to ARE 436 so I got his slightly used stock 4L60-E for the right price ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
All's well that ends well ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Speed freak
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,477
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by camaro_ls1:
<strong> UGOT8, IMO MAF ends aren't a good mod for A4's. They are tough on auto tranny's resulting from decreased line pressure. Others may tell you different. That's my 2 cents though. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a 98 A4 Formula with ported MAF ends. Hasn't hurt my tranny.
You are correct about the low line pressure damaging the tranny, but that is minimal and most likely won't be noticed. I have almost 80k miles on my car and haven't had one tranny problem besides the tranny mount needing replaced. Just a few bolt-ons, no tuning at all, and I'm runnin low 12s.
Then again...its different for every car.
<strong> UGOT8, IMO MAF ends aren't a good mod for A4's. They are tough on auto tranny's resulting from decreased line pressure. Others may tell you different. That's my 2 cents though. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a 98 A4 Formula with ported MAF ends. Hasn't hurt my tranny.
You are correct about the low line pressure damaging the tranny, but that is minimal and most likely won't be noticed. I have almost 80k miles on my car and haven't had one tranny problem besides the tranny mount needing replaced. Just a few bolt-ons, no tuning at all, and I'm runnin low 12s.
Then again...its different for every car.
Speed freak
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,477
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FireHawk-2K-487:
<strong> AT and MAF ends = dead tranny unles you tune your car <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wrong. Its different for every car. See my above reply
<strong> AT and MAF ends = dead tranny unles you tune your car <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wrong. Its different for every car. See my above reply
TECH Addict
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,850
Likes: 0
From: Plainville,MA
Re: Wow! Actual gains with MAF ends??? I agree Devil ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
For us A4 LS1'ers that use our cars/trucks in a competiton mode, ported Maf ends will cause an issue after some heavy abuse without proper tuning ! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
As for street driven only A4 cars I'm sure the ends may not be so detremental ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just for the record my Z has seen some serious abuse ! <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
My car has 300+ 1320' passes on it, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> of those 100+ were on the sauce ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I also have 150+ dyno pulls due to the tuning and testing of parts ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
For us A4 LS1'ers that use our cars/trucks in a competiton mode, ported Maf ends will cause an issue after some heavy abuse without proper tuning ! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
As for street driven only A4 cars I'm sure the ends may not be so detremental ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just for the record my Z has seen some serious abuse ! <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
My car has 300+ 1320' passes on it, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> of those 100+ were on the sauce ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I also have 150+ dyno pulls due to the tuning and testing of parts ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />