Need help: Dealer prodding around
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From: Waldorf, Maryland
Need help: Dealer prodding around I posted a couple days ago about all the crap that has been going on with my car. It is back at the dealer cause the SES came back on 2 days after I picked it up for the 2nd time. There is a page full of codes that are completely random being tossed out.
I got a phone call last night (about 8PM) several hours after dropping the car back off at the dealer.
Apparently it was suggested that I have/had a supercharger on the car <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I was being asked about my ASP Crank and Alternator pulleys as well as the cutouts on the car.
I am worried they are starting to look for anything they can to deny working on my car again (since they cant get it right to save their life).
I obvioulsy never had or do not currently have a supercharger (or nitrous as they had insinuated before also) on the car.
But what problems could the pulleys and/or the cutouts cause me? What could they say? What could I counter with?
Anything would be appreciated - thanks.
I got a phone call last night (about 8PM) several hours after dropping the car back off at the dealer.
Apparently it was suggested that I have/had a supercharger on the car <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I was being asked about my ASP Crank and Alternator pulleys as well as the cutouts on the car.
I am worried they are starting to look for anything they can to deny working on my car again (since they cant get it right to save their life).
I obvioulsy never had or do not currently have a supercharger (or nitrous as they had insinuated before also) on the car.
But what problems could the pulleys and/or the cutouts cause me? What could they say? What could I counter with?
Anything would be appreciated - thanks.
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Re: Need help: Dealer prodding around Alright from a legal standpoint you could make it out alive. It all depends on how well they know the waranty and what it contains. Now they might be able to deny you service on the engine and tranny, due to odification. But your immediate arguement should be that your modifications are to parts of the car that are not modified, the ecu. Unless in the warranty it says that any modification voids everything. So you might be able to harass them a little and get them to work on just getting the ECU to work properly. Nothing your ASP is doing should make it through out codes. But were are the cutouts??? As you know if they are to close to the O2s you might throw a code.
Atleast this is what my lawyer friend suggests.
Atleast this is what my lawyer friend suggests.
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Re: Need help: Dealer prodding around I appreciate the advice. I understand that they can void something due a mod causing a problem.
But my quesiton is - what problems could they argue that the pulleys or cutouts are causing. What are some valid issues they can say they lead too and what arent?
BTW - one cutout is located right next to the muffler (horrible location and has been capped for the last 10K miles). Other one is right before the bend over the rear axle. So it shouldnt throw any codes. It has been on the car for about 10K miles and never caused any codes before.
But my quesiton is - what problems could they argue that the pulleys or cutouts are causing. What are some valid issues they can say they lead too and what arent?
BTW - one cutout is located right next to the muffler (horrible location and has been capped for the last 10K miles). Other one is right before the bend over the rear axle. So it shouldnt throw any codes. It has been on the car for about 10K miles and never caused any codes before.
Re: Need help: Dealer prodding around Underdrive pulleys trade pulley speed
for torque / field current at the
alternator. So you might have trouble
getting the alternator replaced if its
regulator burns up, etc.
Same deal on water pump, you run it
slower, any cooling related beefs you
might expect some resistance over.
Then there's the occasional pulley imbalance,
some folks see this manifesting as knock
sensor false trigger / knock retard, but
a defective pulley that's bad enough to
set this off, may also be doing a bad job
of damping crankshaft vibrations, might
be crank or bearing issues there.
Basically, the dealer made his money when
you bought the car, anything he fixes now
is just a loss. If he's luck, his uncle GM
or the warranty company eats it instead.
But that glad showroom hand stays in his
pocket, when you're in the service bay.
for torque / field current at the
alternator. So you might have trouble
getting the alternator replaced if its
regulator burns up, etc.
Same deal on water pump, you run it
slower, any cooling related beefs you
might expect some resistance over.
Then there's the occasional pulley imbalance,
some folks see this manifesting as knock
sensor false trigger / knock retard, but
a defective pulley that's bad enough to
set this off, may also be doing a bad job
of damping crankshaft vibrations, might
be crank or bearing issues there.
Basically, the dealer made his money when
you bought the car, anything he fixes now
is just a loss. If he's luck, his uncle GM
or the warranty company eats it instead.
But that glad showroom hand stays in his
pocket, when you're in the service bay.
