02BlackWS6

Is anyone running their true dual setup? Looks like a nice setup. Are the pipes stainless? Is there any real advantage running this system over a high flow single exhaust?

DONAIMIAN

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I dont think I could justify paying that much for that set-up, yea it sounds good and all but its still now way that I could shove out that kind of noney <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

RPM WS6

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I have heard Tom Izzo's (Speed Inc owner) SS in person many times with this system on it. It sounds perfect! I guess the extra cubes and blower help that sound along as well though... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Country Boy

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OMG!!!! $1200 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Somebodys smokin somethin' funny <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

RPM WS6

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There is a lot of welding and pipe bending for that system to be assembled, not to mention he uses ATR mufflers that are at least $100 a piece and pretty expensive tips too.

When you figure that some of the catbacks out there are $700+, $1200 is not too bad for a true dual system exiting at the rear of the car, using top quality mufflers, and high quality tips. Also, you really would not beleive how well this system tucks up under the car when you see it in person. My Bassani stock-style Y-pipe hangs lower in some areas than any part of this system...

SSCamaro99_3

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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong> OMG!!!! $1200 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Somebodys smokin somethin' funny <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not cheap, but it takes me about 10 hours to make the system, plus the cost of the parts.

It's mostly an advantage on higher hp, larger CI setups. My old 383 LT1 made 453rwhp 416rwtq through a similar setup.

KTamez

Jim, is this something you guys only install at the shop on a car by car basis?

-K

Sears

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KTamez:
<strong>Jim, is this something you guys only install at the shop on a car by car basis?

-K</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Same question, and will you make a setup that splits to oppisite sides before the axle? I do not have a problem with removing the upper PHR if thats what it takes.

Thanks,
Justin

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We only do them in-house. I can make them split before the axle. That's how it's done on our shop car.

It just gets a bit more complicated because the electrical connectors for abs/fuel tank are on the drivers side, along with the fuel lines and rear brake hose.

02BlackWS6

Well I do have heads/cam already, plus I'll be running 7#'s of boost. So would I benefit from this system? Is it stainless or aluminized? And how loud is it? I love the way it looks though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I mean if I can gain like 20 rwhp over my borla once the ATI is installed, I just might have to look into this setup.

<small>[ February 23, 2003, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: 02BlackWS6 ]</small>

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 02BlackWS6:
<strong> Well I do have heads/cam already, plus I'll be running 7#'s of boost. So would I benefit from this system? Is it stainless or aluminized? And how loud is it? I love the way it looks though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I mean if I can gain like 20 rwhp over my borla once the ATI is installed, I just might have to look into this setup. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It seems to work well with supercharged applications. Our shop car made over 700rwhp through that setup, and my car made 634rwhp through a similar setup. I can't say how much it's worth over a single exhaust, because we've never done a back to back comparison. Doesn't seem to be holding the cars back though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> .

The shop car is relatively loud, but not obnoxious like a loudmouth. The Trans Am in the pictures is a cam/heads car and was quieter than most aftermarket cat-backs IMO. Sounds deep/smooth, not raspy.

edit: The pipes are aluminized. The exhaust on my car hasn't rusted in 2 years, but it doesn't see bad weather often.

<small>[ February 23, 2003, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: INTMD8 ]</small>

Country Boy

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Not knocking ya dude, but my 3" true dual with Dr. Gas X-pipe and 2 Flowmaster 1 chamber Delta Force (the race mufflers, not the cheap delta flow) mufflers, all mandrel (made from prebent mandrel bends because no mandrel shop on this side of FL) only cost me $500 total. Thats parts and all 5 hrs worth of work, but it does dump at the axel. The dumps are aimed behind the back tires and I DO NOT get any smell or anything in the car. Crusing at 80 MPH and its quieter than it was stock. Clearence was the same as the 3" y-pipe.

If people are paying $1200, then more power to ya <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

INSSANE

You get what you pay for.
The over the axle part is the hardest. That takes alot of time to get right.

Call for an "up to the axle" setup. 3" X pipe to dynomax bullet mufflers with 3" turndowns for $549.99 2.5" for more groundclearance $529.99

Quoted from their site

Speed Inc does nothing but TOP quality work too so the welds are probably perfect.
Look at the pics on their site, the axle part is not easy.
Nick

LASTLS1

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It sounds AWSOME! Well worth the money. It fits under the car nice. Not too loud, Very nice job. You have to hear it!!! I couldn't justify spending that kind of money on a cat back, I hate the way the single system sounds.

BIGBOS

I saw a the true dual setup on a black WS6 at speed inc.

The setup looked really good, very nice, didn't get to hear it though, it was still in the process of being put together... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Slick9.5

lanes wheel sponsor sells x pipes too

DONAIMIAN

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Ive been thinking about this all day, and now I think i can justify it. it replaces everything up to the collectors so think of it like this. Grott coated y-pipe good 300 plus a good cat back is like 700, so your already at 1000, so its not really that bad at all. **** if I had the money id go for it <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

Narcosynthesis

Looks sweet. If I lived near there, Id make a stop by speed Inc for some work <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

BLUEBYU

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Hooker catback and orp...all Jet Hot coated...cost me $477 + $250 shipped! Looks awesome and flows great for a H/C setup.
Add Jet Hot's LT's for $567 and you have what I believe to be the best sounding, priced, and looking system for about $1300. That is a "no-brainer". BTW, Hooker's tips freakin' rock...3" dual/duals. I spent $100 on my Meg's oval tips and now are looking pretty on a shelf...