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Mar 13, 2003 | 06:51 AM

thedave8

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chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

just looking for proof i can print for a non believer, a customer has his camaro (96) at the shop i work at,and has overheating problem at highway speeds, but he ripped his spoiler off under the car and swears it aint necessary, and thinks we're full of sh*t for trying to sell him one. I've seen this before, without spoiler ,air goes right under the car at speed, and doesn't get directed up through radiator....any good bule\tins or such stating this fact? taanks

Mar 13, 2003 | 08:18 AM

silverbullittSS

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

Give him cheap proof and wire or tape a piece of cardboard up there and let him drive down the highway himself. We had to prove that to a customer in the past.

Mar 13, 2003 | 02:00 PM

pimpmaro

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

Hehe... you could go the more expensive route and sell him a new thermostat, fan switch, water pump, etc etc etc etc... and give him the alternative... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Mar 13, 2003 | 02:14 PM

horist

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

what more proof does one need other than looking at the car? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> There isn't anywhere for fresh air to get in up front to cool the radiator/dissipate heat... the air damn allows air to be pushed up... seems like that's enough proof heh

Mar 13, 2003 | 02:23 PM

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by thedave8:
 just looking for proof i can print for a non believer, a customer has his camaro (96) at the shop i work at,and has overheating problem at highway speeds, but he ripped his spoiler off under the car and swears it aint necessary, and thinks we're full of sh*t for trying to sell him one. I've seen this before, without spoiler ,air goes right under the car at speed, and doesn't get directed up through radiator....any good bule\tins or such stating this fact? taanks <hr /></blockquote>He's wrong, you are correct. The air dam also helps mileage and top speed, if either matters to him. My gut feeling is he's not going to have his mind changed with facts.

It depends on how much you value his business. You could offer to put a new one on, have him pay for it, and run his car. If he's dissatisfied, take it back off and refund his $, and he'll be overheating again.

Of course, there's an old saying about a few % of your customers causing 90%+ of your headaches; IMO they aren't worth having as customers.

My $.02

Mar 13, 2003 | 05:14 PM

Danny2tek

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

it's there for a reason (not to just scrape the driveway <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> )

Mar 13, 2003 | 05:28 PM

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Old SStroker:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by thedave8:
 just looking for proof i can print for a non believer, a customer has his camaro (96) at the shop i work at,and has overheating problem at highway speeds, but he ripped his spoiler off under the car and swears it aint necessary, and thinks we're full of sh*t for trying to sell him one. I've seen this before, without spoiler ,air goes right under the car at speed, and doesn't get directed up through radiator....any good bule\tins or such stating this fact? taanks <hr /></blockquote>He's wrong, you are correct. The air dam also helps mileage and top speed, if either matters to him. My gut feeling is he's not going to have his mind changed with facts.

It depends on how much you value his business. You could offer to put a new one on, have him pay for it, and run his car. If he's dissatisfied, take it back off and refund his $, and he'll be overheating again.

Of course, there's an old saying about a few % of your customers causing 90%+ of your headaches; IMO they aren't worth having as customers.

My $.02 <hr /></blockquote>How does the airdam help milage and top speed?

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Mar 13, 2003 | 08:50 PM

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Re: chin spoiler necessary for proper cooling of radiator?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Old SStroker:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by thedave8:
 just looking for proof i can print for a non believer, a customer has his camaro (96) at the shop i work at,and has overheating problem at highway speeds, but he ripped his spoiler off under the car and swears it aint necessary, and thinks we're full of sh*t for trying to sell him one. I've seen this before, without spoiler ,air goes right under the car at speed, and doesn't get directed up through radiator....any good bule\tins or such stating this fact? taanks <hr /></blockquote>He's wrong, you are correct. The air dam also helps mileage and top speed, if either matters to him. My gut feeling is he's not going to have his mind changed with facts.

It depends on how much you value his business. You could offer to put a new one on, have him pay for it, and run his car. If he's dissatisfied, take it back off and refund his $, and he'll be overheating again.

Of course, there's an old saying about a few % of your customers causing 90%+ of your headaches; IMO they aren't worth having as customers.

My $.02 <hr /></blockquote>How does the airdam help milage and top speed? <hr /></blockquote>it keeps the engine operating at proper temperature.