removeing a.i.r.
Umm... all I was asking about was the AIR system in respect to fuel economy/length of cat life. So let's keep it to that. 
So I ask again... how do the life of the cats suffer from no AIR system?
And let's add another question: after the car is warmed up, does the AIR system help any? CMNTMXR57 said that the AIR system reduces emissions. But does it help when the engine is warm? If the AIR system has been on for more than 240 seconds, it shuts off, so it's obviously not running all the time.
So I ask again... how do the life of the cats suffer from no AIR system?
And let's add another question: after the car is warmed up, does the AIR system help any? CMNTMXR57 said that the AIR system reduces emissions. But does it help when the engine is warm? If the AIR system has been on for more than 240 seconds, it shuts off, so it's obviously not running all the time.
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Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
how can you say volcano's dont pollute. they make more pollutants in one eruption then all the cars running for a year.even if they are a natural process,
Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
its just something to compare to.. so maybe some environmentalist can go try and plug the volcanoes with there heads...
Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
that crap for the most part is going out the exhaust without the egr hooked up, not recycled over and over ..as for what the egr does im just going by what i read, where did you get your information??.. i didn't say mankind didn't have an effect, but i dont think the problem is only or even mostly based with cars. as much as the amount of humans there are. all of us breathing , makes what the gov calls pollutants. - you breathing produces more deadly gases faster then constant 
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Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
and check out a theory? - a theory is only a theory based on an idea not proof... i want proof. sorry
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Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
if my grammar disturbs you.
Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
here in america, were not so ****.. so take your 
and roll in it.
and roll in it.
Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
i'll be sure to give you more of this bad grammar 
[QUOTE=00454sscamaro]if its, as you say pumping inert gases into the combustion chamber. wouldnt that diminish reasons for having a 5.7 if i wasn't getting all of my 5.7l of combustion chamber dedicated to making power???[/quote[
At only part throttle you aren't getting the full 5.7 llitres anyhow, not in effective terms. And at WOT EGR doesn't operate.
Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
21 yrs i know not long, but if your going to say that. the 100+yrs cars have been around is nothing, on that subject.
but as for me. until some proof on the whole bad gasses and there negative or even noticible effects can be proven. either way i continue to not like the
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but as for me. until some proof on the whole bad gasses and there negative or even noticible effects can be proven. either way i continue to not like the
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Originally Posted by super_kev
Umm... all I was asking about was the AIR system in respect to fuel economy/length of cat life. So let's keep it to that.
So I ask again... how do the life of the cats suffer from no AIR system?
So I ask again... how do the life of the cats suffer from no AIR system?
Originally Posted by super_kev
And let's add another question: after the car is warmed up, does the AIR system help any? CMNTMXR57 said that the AIR system reduces emissions. But does it help when the engine is warm? If the AIR system has been on for more than 240 seconds, it shuts off, so it's obviously not running all the time.
If you want some general info on cats check out Random Technology's website it has loads of usful info. You should be able to find it via Google.
Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Logically thinking adding AIR after Y point in time will have little affect on emisisons.
"Dilution is the solution to polution....."
You guys can bitch at each other via PM, and if your trying to out-argue the brit, be prepared to read volumes.
