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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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okay couple of things, i have the drivers side manifold off and i went to put the tube that goes in the top of the pacesetters but the on off of the old manifold wont fit, is there some adapter that i need or something? Also on the pass side manifold i cant seem to get in to get the last bolt off, its the one closest to the front bumper, anyone have any tips for getting this on off?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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If your AIR tubes won't line up right, you may have headers from a different year model. That tube placement is the reason for there being a variance between year models while you're ordering. You can probably just bend the tubes to make them fit, but I'd junk the whole emissions system all together. Some pics of your situation would help tremendously.

As for the bolt, will it not turn? I usually use a gear wrench or my air ratchet to remove the manifold/header bolts.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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The 02 drivers side AIR tube won't fit, if you want it on there, run down to the local parts store and get some heater hose, about a foot, and put that in place of the stock hose, and trim it to fit
For the front passenger side bolt, I used a 1/4 drive ratchet and a swivel socket, along with a 6 inch extension to get it off.
If it won't turn, then hit it with some PB Blaster and let it sit for an hour and try again
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The 02 drivers side AIR tube won't fit, if you want it on there, run down to the local parts store and get some heater hose, about a foot, and put that in place of the stock hose, and trim it to fit
For the front passenger side bolt, I used a 1/4 drive ratchet and a swivel socket, along with a 6 inch extension to get it off.
If it won't turn, then hit it with some PB Blaster and let it sit for an hour and try again
for the air tube its not a question of it not lining up, its that they both have threads on them and there is no bolt or anything to connect them, here are some pics.


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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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What in the fark is up with that? lol

Only thing I can think of is to go get a threaded coupler from a hardware store. Bring the AIR tube down and match the threads. I just realized you're doing LT1 headers too.
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do you think texas speed/performance sent me the wrong headers?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Wow, that's fucked up. Talk about quality issue. I'm sure you can rig up a coupling adapter that is use for air lines. Lowes/Home depot have the stuff you need.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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okay i was looking at texas speed and they have 2 headers one is a 96-97 with emissions fittings and one 93-97 without emission fittings, now it looks like i got the one with the emission fittings, can i still use it for my t/a or will it be all fucked up?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by transambandit
do you think texas speed/performance sent me the wrong headers?
I have no idea, but I've never messed with LT1 headers before.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Yours definatly HAS emissions fittings lol. Best thing to do is call and talk to someone, I'm sure they can get the problem sorted out for you. They may not offer emissions headers for 93-95 cars?
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called, they are closed til wed, well ive read that you can just delete them so im sure it wont hurt them to just attach a tube.
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Okay wtf, i dont know how the hell you guys got a wrench to get that damn last bolt out, my deep socket wont fit by the fender wall, and my extension/ air ratchet wont hit the bolt cuz of the AIR tube coming up from underneath. HOW THE HELL DO I GET THIS BOLT OFF
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Come On Guys I Really Need Help!!!
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Use a box end wrench and go at it 2* at a time, or pick yourself up a set of GEAR WRENCHES. These cars are bitches sometimes.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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ive been using a gear wrench and there isnt enough room, i have maybe a 1/2 in to work with that the gear wrench will go and it keeps slipping off the bolt, i dont know if the damn thing is stripped or not.
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Originally Posted by transambandit
ive been using a gear wrench and there isnt enough room, i have maybe a 1/2 in to work with that the gear wrench will go and it keeps slipping off the bolt, i dont know if the damn thing is stripped or not.

Your doing this through the bottom of the car I assume. Just be patient. I had to use a boxed wrench and it took some time. Dont try to rush cuz them you might miss something and then it will be more of a hassle.....
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what if i just go in with my dremel and saw that SOB off?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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No, you run the risk of never being able to get it off. It will eventually break free...
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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I had the same problem, all I did was just bend it but don't break it ( duh ). I hope you are planning on replacing the spark plugs. this is the best time to do it!

Good Luck!
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Id get a girl to help you, my lady was able to put her hands in all of the areas where I couldn't.

Post up some more pics of that air tube, I know theirs fittings which you can use to pullem together. Take it easy.
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