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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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I was on Thunder racing's website and saw that there is an underdrive pulley and also a super dampner. What is the difference between these two, do i need both, and is an underdrive pully hard to install? for 300$ 8-10 HP doesnt seem that bad, thanks!
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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the u/d pulley is a very easy install,atleast mine was. i got the asp one with the alt pulley also.i just got rented a puller made for a chrysler i believe and in about 5 minutes it was off.i then heated the asp one to 150 *and put it on using the stock bolt since i had quite a few threads to use and it was going on easily or otherwise i would have used a longer bolt.
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thanks, do you know anything about a super dampner/damper (sp?) ??
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thanks, do you know anything about a super dampner/damper (sp?) ??
It's supossed to absorb some of the vibrations, but our motors don't really need it. The ASP works great and has nothing special about it. The March pulley is a "fluid damper". It's full of liquid that absorbs vibrations.
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It's supossed to absorb some of the vibrations, but our motors don't really need it. The ASP works great and has nothing special about it. The March pulley is a "fluid damper". It's full of liquid that absorbs vibrations.
is there any advantage to that fluid damper, i saw where the march and ASP cost about the same, and what about quality, does one hold up better than the other or are they about the same?
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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is there any advantage to that fluid damper, i saw where the march and ASP cost about the same, and what about quality, does one hold up better than the other or are they about the same?
I've seen a bunch of posts lately about people with March pulleys having their belts fly off. This makes them have to upgrade their tensioner to hold it on. I've had an ASP for 11k miles and have zero issues with it, even spinning to 6800.
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I've seen a bunch of posts lately about people with March pulleys having their belts fly off. This makes them have to upgrade their tensioner to hold it on. I've had an ASP for 11k miles and have zero issues with it, even spinning to 6800.
Good stuff Blur, thanks
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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SLP also has their underdrive pulley which you won't need an aftermarket tensioner for. That's the one that I wanna get.

http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...1&BIG=100221-1
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This one is a bit cheaper but it's the same thing

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...id=40&catid=16
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so do all aftermarket pulley's need a new tensioner?
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The tensioner is a piece of mind part for belt slippage.
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No they do not need a new tensioner. Mine has 121k miles on it and it's never let the belt fly off my ASP. If you get a pulley and have problems, it's either not seated all the way or your tensioner is less than stellar.

I ordered my ASP and belts from Futral.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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I am running the SLP pulley and have had no problems
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The ATI super dampner are serious insurance for a serious engine. Most of the time these are overkill for street cars but that all depends on whom you talk to. The ATI is not a fluid filled unit like the march. The ATI is a rebuildable balancer that has a combination of orings and counter weights designed to absorb most of the harmonics that the reciprocating assembly may give off. Most engines that are at high RPM for an extended period of time such as a cup motors generally use these types of balancers.

Most of the customers I speak with are running the ASP or Powerbond/SLP.
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So is there any difference between the ASP and the SLP Pulley?? Or are they the same thing? I also read that you shouldnt get one if you are just driving your car for street use / daily driving, they said you should really only get one if you are going to use it for track use? This is what I dont understand. Any help.
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So is there any difference between the ASP and the SLP Pulley?? Or are they the same thing? I also read that you shouldnt get one if you are just driving your car for street use / daily driving, they said you should really only get one if you are going to use it for track use? This is what I dont understand. Any help.
I think the SLP pulley has high sides on it to help prevent belt loss, but I'm not sure. You could do a search and find out though.
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I'm tempted to pickup the ASP pulley and speed inc tensioner from speedinc.com

Any input of it this is worth the 330 or so bucks?

Would there be a noticeable difference with this and a ported tb?
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Originally Posted by BLK02TA
I'm tempted to pickup the ASP pulley and speed inc tensioner from speedinc.com

Any input of it this is worth the 330 or so bucks?

Would there be a noticeable difference with this and a ported tb?
You can pick up 15rwhp or so with those two, probably be able to feel it fairly easy.
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both the asp and powerbond/slp are excellant parts I would recomend either to anyone. There shouldnt be any horsepower difference between the two.

I guess it depends on aesthetics

ASP - Black finish
Powerbond/SLP - Shinny
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
I think the SLP pulley has high sides on it to help prevent belt loss, but I'm not sure. You could do a search and find out though.

You are correct.
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