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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Default Terminator Boxes Finally Done!

Well, here they are in final form with the 1200 degree high temp ceramic paint. You'll notice the straps of 22 gauge doubled up on the 1/3 and 3/3rds spots and the support inside the box. You can also see the bell mouth which is a collector reducer that is meant for a 3 bolt collector flange. Although they appear a little wavy they are actually very rigid and I think they will last quite well considering this is only a street strip setup and no road racer subjected to constant high heat by any means. Any comments are appreciated!

http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/SUPRSLO/

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hmm, link doesn't work for me
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hmm, link doesn't work for me
Fixed it
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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so whats so good about these mufflers?
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so whats so good about these mufflers?
They are not mufflers. I'm going to run 3" 18" long case magnaflows behind these.

Take a look at this article, it will explain what i'm doing/try to do here. The short and sweet is these boxes allow the remainder of the exhaust system after them to remain invisible to the motor if the proper mufflers are chosen which I have with the magnaflows. Essentially you get open header performance with a quiet exhaust, or much quieter then open headers anyway.

There is more to exhaust then flow, and backpressure is simply something that you don't want, regardless of what your grandpa tells you

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...xh/index1.html
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Originally Posted by DAPSUPRSLO
They are not mufflers. I'm going to run 3" 18" long case magnaflows behind these.

Take a look at this article, it will explain what i'm doing/try to do here. The short and sweet is these boxes allow the remainder of the exhaust system after them to remain invisible to the motor if the proper mufflers are chosen which I have with the magnaflows. Essentially you get open header performance with a quiet exhaust, or much quieter then open headers anyway.

There is more to exhaust then flow, and backpressure is simply something that you don't want, regardless of what your grandpa tells you

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...xh/index1.html
ill read that article, and also have no backpressure can cause you to fail a smog check for NOX if you have a backpressure transduced EGR valve
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ill read that article, and also have no backpressure can cause you to fail a smog check for NOX if you have a backpressure transduced EGR valve
I have no comment or care about that as you can probably tell from the other pics of my car in that link, ha
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Looks good. We've talked about doing this for months. I'm glad you're going to try it. The theory is sound, but getting the boxes to fit remains a challenge for many 4th Gen owners. I'm glad you're doing it. Take lots of pictures of the underside of your car so we can see the clearance. Thumbs up!
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awesome they don't look as big as I thought they were going to be. definatly need to see some installed pics!

I would love to try this setup, but with my chassis mount tq arm, I doubt its a possibility
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Guys, they are installed and I have started the car with them. Will get some pictures asap. They do have a little bit of a tinny sound to them but I haven't heard them long enough to say for sure how they'll end up growing/not growing on me. I'll make sure to report back soon!
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Please post up some install pics/vids asap! I'm sure that a sound clip on here won't do it justice, but at least we'll get an idea.
I read thru that article but it was late at night when I read it. Did it go into how to determine your box size in there? I understand the basis around the science of it, but how do you determine what size box to do, etc.?

Oh and if you see significant gains over a normal xpipe setup would you wanna build me a box?
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Please post up some install pics/vids asap! I'm sure that a sound clip on here won't do it justice, but at least we'll get an idea.
I read thru that article but it was late at night when I read it. Did it go into how to determine your box size in there? I understand the basis around the science of it, but how do you determine what size box to do, etc.?

Oh and if you see significant gains over a normal xpipe setup would you wanna build me a box?
The volume/size requirement is 8 times the size of one cylinder which is very easy in a v8 obviously, ha. For instance, if you have a 346" ls1 then you need a minimum of 346 cubic inch boxes. As far as making these boxes well I'll have to speak with my buddy who does the welding. Check back for pics!
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Glad to see someone has stepped up and tried this. Can't wait for more pics, details, videos etc.
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