Trapping 110 in a mildy bolted on car?
Trapping 110 in a mildy bolted on car? My priorities have changed and I have decided to pay some school loans and foregoe the mod fund. My goal was a 12second ET @ 110ish.
I already ran a best in sig(2.35 60', full weight), with just the CAI & Lid.
I am curious to think if you guys think I will be able to obtain that with these mods. And I think it will stop there.
So being added to the list is a cut-out, MSD wires, new NGK 55's, Bo White PnP TB, custom smooth bellow, hi-flow filter, and perhaps a tune if it is worth it.
So do you guys think it is possible or is it a pipe dream. And if it is a pipe dream, the next step would be headers correct?
*Edit* Meant to put this in external.
I already ran a best in sig(2.35 60', full weight), with just the CAI & Lid.
I am curious to think if you guys think I will be able to obtain that with these mods. And I think it will stop there.
So being added to the list is a cut-out, MSD wires, new NGK 55's, Bo White PnP TB, custom smooth bellow, hi-flow filter, and perhaps a tune if it is worth it.
So do you guys think it is possible or is it a pipe dream. And if it is a pipe dream, the next step would be headers correct?
*Edit* Meant to put this in external.
should be possible. you need to get yo ur 60 foot times down. I ran a best of 13.07 @108. and all i have is a loudmouth, and lid. that was with a 2.09 60. im shootin for 12s 2 once i get the car back on the road. if you have a m6 it just comes down to how good you can launch, and drive it
I've went 12.52 @ 110.04 with just mild bolt-ons. That time was with;
LS6 intake
Ported stock throttle body
Untouched Mac headers and ORY
Open cutout
"Mail order" tune from Thunder Racing
Lid
4.10/1 gears and a 6600 RPM launch (1.75 short time)
27" ET Streets
fresh tune-up
The plugs won't give you any power unless yours are cracked or you have 50,000 miles on the stock plugs. Same with the highflow filter- paper is fine.
This was in the HEAT of summer in south Louisiana. It corrected to ~12.35 @ 112-ish at standard conditions.
Ben T.
LS6 intake
Ported stock throttle body
Untouched Mac headers and ORY
Open cutout
"Mail order" tune from Thunder Racing
Lid
4.10/1 gears and a 6600 RPM launch (1.75 short time)
27" ET Streets
fresh tune-up
The plugs won't give you any power unless yours are cracked or you have 50,000 miles on the stock plugs. Same with the highflow filter- paper is fine.
This was in the HEAT of summer in south Louisiana. It corrected to ~12.35 @ 112-ish at standard conditions.
Ben T.
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i wouldnt get the wires and plugs unless theres something wrong with the ones you have.you could spend that little bit of money on somethin else or put it twards something else. get a hardware store bellow-cheaper, and same effect. id also port your own tb unless you dont have acess to a dremel, its very easy+no waiting if you do it yourself. you should deffinitly notice a tune. my ewp, t/b port, and tune were some of the more noticible mods i did sofar. ewp is expensive for the gains though. im sure my cam headers and juice will be alot more noticible though.
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1) +1 on ditching the wires.
2) +1 on better 60's.
3) What kind of tires are you on? You should be able to get into the sub-2.0 60's with any drag radial, a working clutch, and a little practice. With a sub-2.0 60' you could miss a gear and still get a 12.
4) Tunes are very worthwhile. However, if you have any mods planned for the future (long tubes, cam, heads, etc), safe the tune for then. You'd be better off spending the $400 on drag radials than a tune anyway. It'd be more likely to get you into the 12's, which seems to be your goal.
2) +1 on better 60's.
3) What kind of tires are you on? You should be able to get into the sub-2.0 60's with any drag radial, a working clutch, and a little practice. With a sub-2.0 60' you could miss a gear and still get a 12.
4) Tunes are very worthwhile. However, if you have any mods planned for the future (long tubes, cam, heads, etc), safe the tune for then. You'd be better off spending the $400 on drag radials than a tune anyway. It'd be more likely to get you into the 12's, which seems to be your goal.
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Originally Posted by Studytime
I've went 12.52 @ 110.04 with just mild bolt-ons. That time was with;
LS6 intake
Ported stock throttle body
Untouched Mac headers and ORY
Open cutout
"Mail order" tune from Thunder Racing
Lid
4.10/1 gears and a 6600 RPM launch (1.75 short time)
27" ET Streets
fresh tune-up
The plugs won't give you any power unless yours are cracked or you have 50,000 miles on the stock plugs. Same with the highflow filter- paper is fine.
This was in the HEAT of summer in south Louisiana. It corrected to ~12.35 @ 112-ish at standard conditions.
Ben T.
LS6 intake
Ported stock throttle body
Untouched Mac headers and ORY
Open cutout
"Mail order" tune from Thunder Racing
Lid
4.10/1 gears and a 6600 RPM launch (1.75 short time)
27" ET Streets
fresh tune-up
The plugs won't give you any power unless yours are cracked or you have 50,000 miles on the stock plugs. Same with the highflow filter- paper is fine.
This was in the HEAT of summer in south Louisiana. It corrected to ~12.35 @ 112-ish at standard conditions.
Ben T.
Oh, and I am doing the smooth bellow for looks.
Doing the hardware store one.What is the mail order tune? Uses a diablo sport of some sort?
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After I did my LT ORY swap. I got my car dynoed, then tuned and redynoed. Picked up 24 RWHP from the tune.
Ditch the wires unless they are REALLY needed. Only reason I got them was cause I broke one during the header swap
Ditch the wires unless they are REALLY needed. Only reason I got them was cause I broke one during the header swap
You should be close. Under conditions and a good 60' you could probably get a 12 sec pass right now @107/108. Also, where are you located/running. If high altitude, keep that in mind. My best is a 12.86 @ 111 in Kentucky running street tires, stock clutch and mods in my sig. That is with a 2.1 60'. Headers are worth every penny and also make those plug changes 100x easier.
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As said above, should be no problem. I ran a 12.95 @ 110 in San Antonio with a horrible (2.11) 60 foot time. Car mods at time were lid, hooker catback, ported throttle body, JBA shorty headers, and 3.73 gears. This was done on stock radials. Get a good 60 foot and drive it like you stole it and you are already there!!
Okay sounds cool. So I should not change the wires and plugs then? The car has 45k on it as it sits.
BTW: Some impressive numbers from some of you guys. I have gotten use to FWD so I have a learning curve I need to overcome.
It is sad I was cutting 2.0's on stock rubber in a SRT-4 and can do any better than a high 2.2 with a rwd car.
BTW: Some impressive numbers from some of you guys. I have gotten use to FWD so I have a learning curve I need to overcome.
It is sad I was cutting 2.0's on stock rubber in a SRT-4 and can do any better than a high 2.2 with a rwd car.
Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
what do you mean by this??? Please explain
Scroll down to the smooth bellows part.
Steer clear of the Fernco mod. It makes the lid fit like **** and is not as flexible (cracks lids). Some peole have no problems with it, but I think it's more of a hassle than it's worth.
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mail order tune , im pretty sure is where you send in your pcm and they tune it via hptuners, efilive etc. then send it back to you. im not sure if you send yours first, or they send you one, and you send yours. im not sure how it works with that.
Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
Steer clear of the Fernco mod. It makes the lid fit like **** and is not as flexible (cracks lids). Some peole have no problems with it, but I think it's more of a hassle than it's worth.
I was going to do it today. What do you think about changing the wires and plugs?
My old camaro:
LT, true duals, S3 p/p throttle body, lid, ftra, BMR - LCA/phb/tq arm on drag radials.
Before tuning 12.94 @ 110.08 2.13 60 foot
after tuning 12.72 @ 111.39 2.06 60 foot ( NOTE* I was spinning so bad in 1st i did have to get completely out of the throttle once) So I know it would have gone even faster.
LT, true duals, S3 p/p throttle body, lid, ftra, BMR - LCA/phb/tq arm on drag radials.
Before tuning 12.94 @ 110.08 2.13 60 foot
after tuning 12.72 @ 111.39 2.06 60 foot ( NOTE* I was spinning so bad in 1st i did have to get completely out of the throttle once) So I know it would have gone even faster.