If you have headers you need 13111's
They have better heaters copmared to our stockers. I had the stock o2's with extensions for a couple months. Threw a code after three days with the long tubes. You must just be one of the lucky ones.
13111's in my car, and i still get the SES insuff swithing code. I can't win with the damn o2's. light pops every few days, and i am not going to talk about the shitty gas mileage, just comment on the 260 miles to the tank! yeah, what about the performance... i guees it doesn't matter when you are WOT, but part throttle driving and it being so pig rich may eventually wash the cylinders and jack the rings up. who knows. 90/90 will be going on next month and i hopefully get tuned so the o2's aint so damn finiky.
I installed Hooker LT's and my car ran good for about a week. Then it threw a ses code and it had a lurching effect down low in the RPMs. I went to schucks and paid about 120 for both, installed them and no codes or lurching since. I wish I had know about this before I bought extensions. I like the performance and sound it produced in the end.
had the car properly tuned after my all my mods were done. the o2's have been this way since i rolled off the dyno. light goes on, then goes off... i can have the code after WOT racing, or just cruising in 6th gear down the highway. it will go off, and then come back in a couple of days. HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR THE LAST MONTHS!!! the light i don't care about. it is the 15mpg hwy that i am freaked out about when i am in open loop when i see that damn SES light illuminated. this has been an issue with the stock o2's and the 13111's. i don't think it is the tune. maybe a leak in the drivers side header somewhere? maybe at the head flanges? they are hooker super comps with thermal barrier coating.
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Originally Posted by SSRZ28
i also have TDs. no problems with stock 02s and extensions.
ya i am running stock o2's with pacesetter L/T's and have had them on for the past year with no problems due to the o2's (knock on wood).
So is there any other gains that these bosch o2's give you? Will they make the car run better in anyway?
So is there any other gains that these bosch o2's give you? Will they make the car run better in anyway?
Originally Posted by bene
You can't tune out the front 02s. 

I've had the 13111s, but wasn't terribly impressed. They started to get lazy just like my stockers. Going open loop was the answer for me, but certainly isn't for everyone. Certainly don't have to worry about buying new O2 sensors ever again
I really doubt there is any gain to be had if your not throwin any codes. And If there is any at all it's so minimal that it's not worth the money. When your stockers go though, it's a good idea.



