Race only exhaust set up, would this work?
Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
if you're running 9's, you can probably get away with it as the added backpressure would probably hurt you. what you have is a very unfair comparison. for the normal board members - the guys running 12's and 13's - they're better off with a type of midpipe that scavenges.
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From: Philly
Originally Posted by General Jack
Drag cars run open headers - because its high rpm duty only, right? So for race only with cam/heads, why would I lose power without the x pipe?
we're in low rpm's compared to race cars that run open headers.
a proper x pipe set up will produce more peak hp than open headers, non forced induction cars need backpressure.
02 sensors are not nessecary. its just a fine tuning piece used for emissions. not nessecary
02 sensors are not nessecary. its just a fine tuning piece used for emissions. not nessecary
Originally Posted by Cop Car
a proper x pipe set up will produce more peak hp than open headers, non forced induction cars need backpressure.
Originally Posted by General Jack
What kind of cam and what type of mufflers did you run? Did you have any pipe between the header and muffler?
Originally Posted by Cop Car
thats not an open header... and if you went from that to open headers you would most likely loose hp and torque.
Why would I want to go from duals, to that, then to open headers? I know what is proven and what worked on my car, as well as the others I have worked on & tuned (9-11 second cars)You never answered my question to your statement, "true duals with an X pipe > all other exhaust"
Why is that? What proof do you have? What does your car run?
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Verdad Gallardo so now you're saying you lose driveability when you run open headers/shorter exhaust?
Wow.
Judging by your posts, Matt D seems a lot smarter than you...
and judging your camaro to his... yeah, you get the picture here too:
Best time and trap:
13.352 @104.48, 2.042 60' 1/8: 8.648 @ 83.73
Wow.
Judging by your posts, Matt D seems a lot smarter than you...
and judging your camaro to his... yeah, you get the picture here too:
Best time and trap:
13.352 @104.48, 2.042 60' 1/8: 8.648 @ 83.73
toolbag
you dont loose drivablity, but purple hornies on the end of headers arent exactly quiet or passanger friendly. x pipes allow you to dump the exhaust further back, allow you to keep your sanity while driving for more than 2 seconds
i love you trolls, you always make no sense what so ever
you dont loose drivablity, but purple hornies on the end of headers arent exactly quiet or passanger friendly. x pipes allow you to dump the exhaust further back, allow you to keep your sanity while driving for more than 2 seconds
i love you trolls, you always make no sense what so ever
Originally Posted by Cop Car
reason why x pipe is the best is because it allows you to run mufflers, and keep drivablity along with not losing hp.
judging by your sig my car is a lot faster than yours...
judging by your sig my car is a lot faster than yours...
I ran mufflers on mine, didn't lose driveability, and didn't lose one single hp. I daily drove my car with the this setup for several months, past tons of cops, passed emmisions, and kept my sanity while driving. The Flo-Pro Twister mufflers get rid of a lot of the noise that is common with the Dynomax style Bullets, yet do not sacrifice any hp/tq loss due to the spiral design.
Your car is faster? Ha, my car ran 10.85, cam only, on a bone stock rear end with a 3.42 gear & 17" drag radial. I put a slick on it & a 125 dry shot and ran 9.89. That car is gone, but anytime you want to run your car against my new one, let me know. Just bring $5,000 in nothing over fifties.
yeah, your car is slow as ***** right now considering you dont have one, so dont bring it up 
. everyone has had a fast car, is going to have a fast car or knows someone with a fast car. it is unimpressive to me. yeah your car was fast, but you dont have it now and its completely idiotic to talk about what you are going to have.
Ich kann spreche Deutch. Ist dass gut fur dich?
your set up was just much louder than most people could stand. some people have diffrent values than other people. high on my list of values is a quiet car that i can drive every day, thats why x pipe is the best. just because you can stand that exhaust set up dosent mean everyone would be alright with it, to me its completely unacceptable on my car.
since you want to do some internet racing "what im going to build will be faster than what you are going to buil." try out this math formula 580RWHP + 2000lbs = you watching my tail lights.
. everyone has had a fast car, is going to have a fast car or knows someone with a fast car. it is unimpressive to me. yeah your car was fast, but you dont have it now and its completely idiotic to talk about what you are going to have. Ich kann spreche Deutch. Ist dass gut fur dich?
your set up was just much louder than most people could stand. some people have diffrent values than other people. high on my list of values is a quiet car that i can drive every day, thats why x pipe is the best. just because you can stand that exhaust set up dosent mean everyone would be alright with it, to me its completely unacceptable on my car.
since you want to do some internet racing "what im going to build will be faster than what you are going to buil." try out this math formula 580RWHP + 2000lbs = you watching my tail lights.
I said I wanted to run you with my new one. Are you grazing over my words and only reading what you want to read? Here it is for you again, in plain English...
Internet racing? Ha, I have made more money really racing my car then what your car is worth.Yes, my 00 is gone, but I have another that is ready to rock!!! Let me know if you want a lane Keyboard Commando! 
Originally Posted by Matt D
That car is gone, but anytime you want to run your car against my new one, let me know. Just bring $5,000 in nothing over fifties.
Last edited by Matt D; Oct 30, 2006 at 05:17 PM.
this thread cracks my **** up 
but seriously, in the spring when i put on my headers and install my cam im thinkin about doin the bullet off the header simply because i want it to be ridulously loud....so would anyone be against me doing that in a full bolt on cam only LS1? if so reasons... o ya its an A4 and i dont have a stall.....yet(would it be absolutly necessary to get one so i could get into the right powerband?)
but seriously, in the spring when i put on my headers and install my cam im thinkin about doin the bullet off the header simply because i want it to be ridulously loud....so would anyone be against me doing that in a full bolt on cam only LS1? if so reasons... o ya its an A4 and i dont have a stall.....yet(would it be absolutly necessary to get one so i could get into the right powerband?)
Originally Posted by Speed Density
Matt,
Didnt you used to be part of Outlaw? And you wrecked your Black 00' Right?
I thought that pic of the headers look familar, those are your old ones.
Tony.
Didnt you used to be part of Outlaw? And you wrecked your Black 00' Right?
I thought that pic of the headers look familar, those are your old ones.
Tony.
The 00 is gone, but I am building another now. The season is done here in IL, but it will be out in the spring making passes.
Originally Posted by Cop Car
as for your 02s, have them all deleted, yes, i said all
What am I missing here?
Matt D - thanks for the info which was relevant to the question I had in my original post - and that some failed to consider before flaming. It sounds like for my race set up, using bullet mufflers and turndowns off the headers will yield a nice hp pickup over my current set up (2.5" y-pipe and Borla catback).