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Old 11-06-2006, 02:35 PM
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vinci doesn't make it. bassani does. and the bassani is 2.5" tru-duals into one muffler.
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i just nuted
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TheLS1Kid - i used kooks headers, but pacesettters might work, but im sure the quality of the kooks headers far exceed the pacesetter headers. sorry i dont have the sound clip up yet, the car is getting the final tune done to it, so as soon as it comes back this weekend, i will post up a sound clip.
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Old 11-06-2006, 08:27 PM
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WOW!!!!

love to hear that baby fired up!
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Originally Posted by WarShrike
You know, I usually get annoyed with people quoting pictures. But on this thread with this exhaust, I don't give a damn. I just needed another chance to burn that beautiful set of pipes into my memory.
Amen to that. They are simply stunning.
Old 11-06-2006, 10:15 PM
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I would like to know the price with the whole setup including the LT's and cats, with the exception that it needs to fit the CME tips, can it be done?
Old 11-07-2006, 12:11 AM
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+1 for some truly amazing work!
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Very Clean and Very Nicely Done!
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Sweeeeet setup! Robust and very clean

Looks like the possibilities are endless with the ph relocation bar.
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Are you able to remove the first half of the exhaust to remove the tranny? I see slip fits at the headers and at the X, but slip fits can be a pain.

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That is a real thing of beauty.
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Originally Posted by DougsfastZ
Are you able to remove the first half of the exhaust to remove the tranny? I see slip fits at the headers and at the X, but slip fits can be a pain.

Doug D
Doug D - Yes, over time slips can be a pain. While at KOOKS, once the system was put together we took it all out to be sure that we could get it all out.
There is also a slip joint just before the two pipes go over the axle. Will probably have to take most of the system out to remove the trans.

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Old 11-07-2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlos01SS
I would like to know the price with the whole setup including the LT's and cats, with the exception that it needs to fit the CME tips, can it be done?
+1 I am very insterested in a True Dual system to work with our CME!
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Originally Posted by mrr23
vinci doesn't make it. bassani does. and the bassani is 2.5" tru-duals into one muffler.
your right. thanks for correcting me. the bassani setup makes no sense to me. it says bassani in your sig, is that what you have? whats the point of true duals if it goes into one muffler? if that is what you have, how do you like it?
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Originally Posted by TheLS1Kid
your right. thanks for correcting me. the bassani setup makes no sense. whats the point of true duals if it goes into one muffler?
because it's two mufflers into one casing. saves space and helps with ground clearance. i have pics on my websites showing the system and it's muffler. just a different way of doing it.

you could ask the same question for another part of most tru-dual systems. what's the point of having duals if it comes together at the x-pipe? in this instance, it helps to make more power. once the two sides of the motor intersect, it's no longer seperated.

true duals, when first created about 50-60 years ago, never came together. that's what you call 'true' duals. the name true duals came about in the late 70s to early 80s because of the lovely single in dual outlet mufflers on the f-bodies. people would call it fake duals because of the two outlets, but only one pipe coming from the motor. hell, my 79 z28 had a y-pipe, then branched off just before the axle into two mufflers, then over the axle and out from the factory.
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OMG i need it. That is amazing!
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Hello all, the reason for the x-pipe is very important in a true dual system. The main purpose of the x-pipe is it actually works as a venturi in the motor. To simply describe it, as the exhaust is comming out of one side of the motor and works through the headers and exhaust, as it gets to the x-pipe it actually helps to pull the exhaust from the otherside of the motor and release it through the rest of the exhaust, therefore making more power because there is less restriction and escaping faster and easier. It also quiets down exhaust somewhat as well. It is also good for equalizing the pressure between the 2 sides, but the main importance of an x-pipe is how the venturi work in making more power. So if you want a bad *** true dual system, and make the most power out of it, you need to have a x-pipe in the system, otherwise your just loosing power.
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Welll not one hundred percent accurate but very nice explanation on what it does. Some people prefer and h pipe for the difference as to where the increased power is. Torque for the low end which is gained with the h pipe and hp with the x pipe. So your not really leaving power on the table just one thing is for sure a lack of a balance pipe x or h is loosing power.
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I"d agreew with all of that, except for the lack of h or X pipe causes a loss of power.

I guarintee removing all exhaust off the end of the headers will make the most power, providing the tune is properly adjusted for this type of setup. If it wasn't the case, then I think about 50 years of drag racers have been doing the wrong thing, which I find hard to believe.
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Im still waiting to hear this thing.


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