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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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A buddie of mine has a 93 z28 yes i know its an LT1 but is it bad that hes running open headers? It sounds bad *** but i told him ur losing low end power and could possibally burn up the valves am i correct. PS. most of my knowledge is in the modular department not in pushrod motors.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Yes it is bad to run open headers, due to the fact that the cool air can get to your valves cool them off too fast. Having open headers gives cool air an easier passage. Yes he is lossing low end torque if its stock with no mods other than the headers. I ran open headers in my ls1 for a couple of weeks while I was waiting to get my duals, didnt have any problems though.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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The only thing he may "burn up" is the o2 sensors, but that can be prevented by adding a foot of pipe off the collectors. Not gonna hurt the valves running open longtubes----now open manifolds, maybe.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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theres nothing wrong with open headers
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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he is completley stock, and now his car is having problems starting but it does have 113k on it, so i dont know if its related. But i will say its probally the loudest exhaust ive ever heard. They are open shortie headers not LT's.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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open shorties is a LT's are ok but shorties thats way to short.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bjamick
open shorties is a LT's are ok but shorties thats way to short.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by straitwangin
he is completley stock, and now his car is having problems starting but it does have 113k on it, so i dont know if its related. But i will say its probally the loudest exhaust ive ever heard. They are open shortie headers not LT's.
It's probably his POS Opti going bad
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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don't do it. you lose low end, destroy your O2 sensors and shorties are simply too short to move the air away from the valves. bad idea. i forsee trouble in the future. run 3 feet of pipe off them and dump them if he's **** about being retarded loud, but he's still losing low end.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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shorties can suck a monkeys ball sack. mids at least but lnogtubes are by far the best. tell him he shouldnt have wasted his time and money with shorties
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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If he just ran LT's would that be fine? How would it affect the loudness? Be quiter our louder than now?
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Originally Posted by straitwangin
If he just ran LT's would that be fine? How would it affect the loudness? Be quiter our louder than now?
LT's will be considerably louder and you need to tell him to either immediately run some pipe after the shorties before he seizes his motor as it's a ticking time bomb running open shorties or switch to LT's and run about a foot of pipe after the collector so he doesn't burn his O2's.... damn his O2's are probably already burnt up with open shorties
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Run atleast 18" of pipe past the collector.
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Punch him in the head before you add andy pipe or change headers out....THAT should be the first move.

Then do what everybody here has recommended!
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Originally Posted by mike#9
Punch him in the head before you add andy pipe or change headers out....THAT should be the first move.

Then do what everybody here has recommended!
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open LT headers + WOT = hemoraged eardrums
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Yea, open headers is going to chew up your gas mileage and thats about it. Burning a Valve is an old wives tale, hot air rises and cold air goes down, so how can air go up, into the exhaust runner and get to the valve, second there is a pressure coming out of the valve almost always, so any cold air would be displaced. anyways.

I ran open headers on my TA for a month, while I collected money to get a Y-pipe, nothing bad happened, didnt even attract to many cops, only when I would go WOT
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
don't do it. you lose low end, destroy your O2 sensors and shorties are simply too short to move the air away from the valves. bad idea. i forsee trouble in the future. run 3 feet of pipe off them and dump them if he's **** about being retarded loud, but he's still losing low end.
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Yes it is bad to run open headers, due to the fact that the cool air can get to your valves cool them off too fast. Having open headers gives cool air an easier passage. Yes he is lossing low end torque if its stock with no mods other than the headers. I ran open headers in my ls1 for a couple of weeks while I was waiting to get my duals, didnt have any problems though.


https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....3&postcount=18

my post in this thread

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...highlight=open

nobody ever responded to my post in that old thread. Don't say things unless you can back them up, show me one case of a fucked up valve because of running open headers and cold air breaking the valve. Then explain why nitrous doesn't hurt the valves when its colder then normal air and makes a hotter combustion because of the increase of power.

I'd watch the o2 sensors though cause they are a lil close to the air and that could show a lean reading which would make the car go rich, but that shouldn't effect starting the car.
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