K & N filter....who wants it?
Originally Posted by Justin00SS
They cost more then the fram.
Originally Posted by Justin00SS
I bet you have to recharge the oil filter from time to time as well.
if its crap why do so many people purchase it?ive had one in every vehicle ive ever owned.i live in a mountain area and ive never had a problem.if you want to feel a hp gain install one in an atv(4 wheeler).but everyone has there own opinion.if dirt were going thru it it wasnt properly oiled.
Originally Posted by Coy
Because they are not made of cardboard. Have any actual solid information that says the FRAM filter is better?
People are so serious when it comes to their k&n. lol I guess they are mad that they got ripped off.
People buy the k&n oil filter because it says performance on the side of it.
You know whats funny, All these people saying K&N are crap, and I still havn't seen any proof that paper is better, not one test, not one review, not one educated example.
SO this post means exactly NOTHING.
might as well be arguing what is the best color to paint a car.
SO this post means exactly NOTHING.
might as well be arguing what is the best color to paint a car.
http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
This first one seems like a good test, I just don't know of any of the other filters.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
The second I think is ok, but he tested it by driving for 500 miles whic I think is a bad idea because of the variations you would get in environment.
Ill see if I can find any more.
This first one seems like a good test, I just don't know of any of the other filters.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
The second I think is ok, but he tested it by driving for 500 miles whic I think is a bad idea because of the variations you would get in environment.
Ill see if I can find any more.
Originally Posted by JDJP
http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
This first one seems like a good test, I just don't know of any of the other filters.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
The second I think is ok, but he tested it by driving for 500 miles whic I think is a bad idea because of the variations you would get in environment.
Ill see if I can find any more.
This first one seems like a good test, I just don't know of any of the other filters.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
The second I think is ok, but he tested it by driving for 500 miles whic I think is a bad idea because of the variations you would get in environment.
Ill see if I can find any more.
The second one is a better test, and it still shows that the Kn is letting dirt and everything through and he assued you that it was serviced properly.
Originally Posted by JDJP
You know whats funny, All these people saying K&N are crap, and I still havn't seen any proof that paper is better, not one test, not one review, not one educated example.
SO this post means exactly NOTHING.
might as well be arguing what is the best color to paint a car.
SO this post means exactly NOTHING.
might as well be arguing what is the best color to paint a car.
But here you go anyway because I guess google.com is broke for you.
http://mymiata.paladinmicro.com/K&NComments.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
There is two I found. The second one didn't get a chance to test paper. There is alot of filter through though. Alot of forums are discussing this.
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Verdad Gallardo [QUOTE=Justin00SS]Then you didn't read what 300hp/ton wrote. You skimmed right by.
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Are you talking about when he said "there are plenty of tests vie interweb"?
Cause thats not provided info, I know there is info out there.
or did I miss some test results that were posted?
and here another write up from someone who actually saw ISO 5011 tests which is what really matters.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66536
QUOTE]
Are you talking about when he said "there are plenty of tests vie interweb"?
Cause thats not provided info, I know there is info out there.
or did I miss some test results that were posted?
and here another write up from someone who actually saw ISO 5011 tests which is what really matters.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66536
Originally Posted by brad8266
The first test didnt have a paper filter to compare to, so why did you even bother posting it?
The second one is a better test, and it still shows that the Kn is letting dirt and everything through and he assued you that it was serviced properly.
The second one is a better test, and it still shows that the Kn is letting dirt and everything through and he assued you that it was serviced properly.
And Im actually trying to post up some good information instead of pulling BS out of my ***, so no need to be a dick.
Originally Posted by JDJP
Are you talking about when he said "there are plenty of tests vie interweb"?
Cause thats not provided info, I know there is info out there.
or did I miss some test results that were posted?
and here another write up from someone who actually saw ISO 5011 tests which is what really matters.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66536
Truth is unless there is nothing else left to modify and you really need every last bit of air then a k&n type filter will help.
In order for it to flow more it will let more particles through. Paper flows less so it lets less particles through.
However its a marginaly difference in power and not worth the money. But they to each his own.
Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Then you didn't read what 300hp/ton wrote. You skimmed right by.
But here you go anyway because I guess google.com is broke for you.
http://mymiata.paladinmicro.com/K&NComments.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
There is two I found. The second one didn't get a chance to test paper. There is alot of filter through though. Alot of forums are discussing this.
But here you go anyway because I guess google.com is broke for you.
http://mymiata.paladinmicro.com/K&NComments.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
There is two I found. The second one didn't get a chance to test paper. There is alot of filter through though. Alot of forums are discussing this.
My google is faster than yours because Ive got A K&N on my computer!
Originally Posted by JDJP
I bothered posting it because I think foam filters came into subject somewhere in this post, so I thought it was a relevant test to what we are discussing.
And Im actually trying to post up some good information instead of pulling BS out of my ***, so no need to be a dick.
And Im actually trying to post up some good information instead of pulling BS out of my ***, so no need to be a dick.
Originally Posted by JDJP
I guess I beat you to it.
My google is faster than yours because Ive got A K&N on my computer!
My google is faster than yours because Ive got A K&N on my computer!
Actually my computer must have spun off the line because I use Brawny paper towel filters.
Originally Posted by JDJP
Now, we just need to test how much tiny dust particles actually effect a cumbustion engine
your so right.