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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Will i jsut bought my cam kit, so with it all taken apart would you recommend an ASP UDP???

I have both good and bad thing with them


What do you all think???
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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dont have one but why not do it? Id go for asp or powerbond if i were you.
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get the powerbond and be done with it man. you'll always want those few extra hp on your dyno # and would wonder without it. you have to take it off anyway, it is def the thing to do.

my powerbond was a nice looking piece and ive had zero problems with it
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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we need a poll, i vote no. I think it just helps the engine rev marginally quicker, doesn't actually net hp. I think
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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I think you should just do it since your already in there.
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The only legit reason I see for underdrive pulleys is if you are spinning the motor so high your alternator explodes or your water pump cavitates. IMO, the marginal HP they free up isn't worth the hassle or expense. I would love to see testing on an engine dyno with an ls-based motor. The only scientific testing of dampers that I have seen was on old BBC's. In that instance, the heavier dampers actually made more power because of better harmonic damping. This did however, neglect the benefit of the smaller pullies in spinning the accessories slower, which is probably where their HP increases are coming from on inertia dynos.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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The only legit reason I see for underdrive pulleys is if you are spinning the motor so high your alternator explodes or your water pump cavitates. IMO, the marginal HP they free up isn't worth the hassle or expense. I would love to see testing on an engine dyno with an ls-based motor. The only scientific testing of dampers that I have seen was on old BBC's. In that instance, the heavier dampers actually made more power because of better harmonic damping. This did however, neglect the benefit of the smaller pullies in spinning the accessories slower, which is probably where their HP increases are coming from on inertia dynos.

See that is my same logic.. I have no idea if it really does anything to free up power. That is $200 i can save.. Plus i hear that they give problems in the long run?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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See that is my same logic.. I have no idea if it really does anything to free up power. That is $200 i can save.. Plus i hear that they give problems in the long run?
the power gain is 2-5 hp, nothing huge, just an every bit counts kind of thing.

and i havent suffered any problems after 10k miles at least
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
the power gain is 2-5 hp, nothing huge, just an every bit counts kind of thing.

and i havent suffered any problems after 10k miles at least

yea so is $200 worth the 2-5 HP??
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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ive had an ASP for yrs and no problems. id get one since youll be in there anyway.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
yea so is $200 worth the 2-5 HP??
well, it is the 2-5 and the faster revving. I justified it this way: 200 dollars for 2-5 hp that will never need to be replaced and faster revving. and peace of mind knowing you got it. it was worth it to me.

on a budget build, no, it doesnt make sense at all
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Ive seen dyno sheets that show around 10 RWHP.... and it doesnt "add" HP, all it does is regains HP that GM took away by adding a bigger pulley... worth it IMO
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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I researched before I bought my pulley, and most people gained around 8rwhp with them.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
yea so is $200 worth the 2-5 HP??
Only you can decide that for yourself. For me? Nope.
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Originally Posted by gametech
The only legit reason I see for underdrive pulleys is if you are spinning the motor so high your alternator explodes or your water pump cavitates. IMO, the marginal HP they free up isn't worth the hassle or expense. I would love to see testing on an engine dyno with an ls-based motor. The only scientific testing of dampers that I have seen was on old BBC's. In that instance, the heavier dampers actually made more power because of better harmonic damping. This did however, neglect the benefit of the smaller pullies in spinning the accessories slower, which is probably where their HP increases are coming from on inertia dynos.
uh NO. hmm how many people have exploded or cavitated anything from reving an lsx motor so high!!! marginal hp (10hp avg); hassle...hell hes putting a cam in. and as far as neglecting benefits how about your acc lasting 25% longer
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
Ive seen dyno sheets that show around 10 RWHP.... and it doesnt "add" HP, all it does is regains HP that GM took away by adding a bigger pulley... worth it IMO
exactly
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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i say get one. every little bit helps.the same hp gains can be said about a p/p tb also. there will be different opinions as expected but if you gain 5 rw that's just 20 bucks a hp,i would give that anytime,anyday.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
Ive seen dyno sheets that show around 10 RWHP.... and it doesnt "add" HP, all it does is regains HP that GM took away by adding a bigger pulley... worth it IMO
I also have a dyno sheet at home that shows 10 rwhp. I have also seen posts where it adds 1/10th better quarter mile E.T. Definately worth it, speed cost money, and every little bit counts.
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Get one used....save a few bucks
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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I have a friend that used ASP, never an issue, LS1's seem to gain good incomparision to LT1's If its off, why not upgrade.
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