Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cam or Gears?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:05 PM
  #1  
MasnarT's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: BOISE
Default Cam or Gears?

I need some help on the best bang for the buck, I have $1200 to spend.
Would a(Cam and a Tune)or(Gears,Lid,Pulley,Tune) be better, Right now its stock for the picking,and what would make the biggest inprovement in the 1/4 with hooking up of course............?
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:08 PM
  #2  
GreenBlood's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default

start with the supporting mods first, I say gears, lid, pulley, and maybe not a tune right away, do u have a catback or longtubes? If not, use the extra cash on those, and you'll save a bunch if you install it yourself...
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:24 PM
  #3  
dpw41285's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 969
Likes: 0
From: Ft Wayne, IN
Default

lid, lts, ory tune...and gears if it fits in the budget
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:25 PM
  #4  
MasnarT's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: BOISE
Default

All I have Done is Flowmaster And Cutout..........yep
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:34 PM
  #5  
dpw41285's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 969
Likes: 0
From: Ft Wayne, IN
Default

good thing for the cut out...that flowmaster doesnt flow too well, but if you like the sound you can keep it and put some lts on and y. then you lid and a tune is awesome. gears made a big diff too!!!! you a4 or m6?
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:42 PM
  #6  
musclebird69's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

definitely go with the supporting mods first. the cam wont be able to breathe very well w/out them.

lid
headers
intake manifold (LS6)
and some gears if you have enough money (if auto)

don't worry about the tune for now. when you have some cash again, drop it on the cam and a tune.
just my suggestion.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:58 PM
  #7  
jamesSS's Avatar
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 872
Likes: 1
From: Sheboygan
Default

are you a M6 or A4? if you are an A4, get a stall, lid. that would be your best bet. if you want best 1/4 performance, get a nitrous kit. a read on here a guy with a stock motor and a 150 shot ran something like 11.9 in the 1/4. you have a lot of options. do alittle more research on here before you start spending $$$. IMO, get the nitrous and some tires.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 10:08 PM
  #8  
musclebird69's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

how can i have forgotten a stall?! if you're an a4 a lid and stall is correct! my car came stalled when i bought it, so i always forget about it.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 10:56 PM
  #9  
MasnarT's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: BOISE
Default

.........sorry its a m6, headers are out of a the ?, strong emission laws dont allow to touch infront of cats, not really interested in NOS
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:08 PM
  #10  
Blk97WS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,336
Likes: 0
From: Northern, VA
Default

Originally Posted by MasnarT
.........sorry its a m6, headers are out of a the ?, strong emission laws dont allow to touch infront of cats, not really interested in NOS
with out doing headers, your going to be VERY limited on cam selection. Cams need to breathe, and with the stock exhaust manifolds, its not going to. Even if you go with a small cam, its still not going to live up to its full potential.

As far as what you should do next with $1200 id say: gears, lid, pulley, and maybe even a different shifter.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:28 PM
  #11  
GotV-8's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,278
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default

Lid,Intake manifold, you could do the LSX combo with the TB but that will put you at your limit or close to it. Like blk97ws6 said your cam selection is going to be slim. I would just stick with these mods.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:57 PM
  #12  
Proud2bSS's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
From: Reno, NV
Default

Originally Posted by MasnarT
.........sorry its a m6, headers are out of a the ?, strong emission laws dont allow to touch infront of cats, not really interested in NOS
Boise ID (Ada County) has sniffer and/or visual emissions testing?

Good to know. I may not want to move there after all.....

Back to the subject.

Get a good quote (reputable rear-end shop) on the gear install. 4.10's really wake up the m6. You can also run some CARB legal shorty headers (they do better than the oem manifolds) with some CARB hi-flow cats. These mount in the stock positions. Then a nice y-pipe. But now I've spent more than $1200 I'm afraid.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:53 AM
  #13  
DONAIMIAN's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
From: NW Houston, TX
Default

FOr whats done to that car right now, a cam and set of gears should be one of the last things your thinking about.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:58 AM
  #14  
lsx24's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,556
Likes: 0
From: NC
Default

I would get duals, to go along with shorties to purchase. Plus an ls6 intake manifold and ported TB, you already have a lid. With that combo I put down 344 rwhp, although my ls6 intake was also ported. Even without headers you want to maximize you intake/exhaust.

4.10s are fun, but IMO they get old fast. Too much shifting. But they do really wake up a M6. 3.73 is a better all-round combination.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:10 AM
  #15  
john563's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,638
Likes: 0
From: dayton ohio
Default

if your looking for track times,nitrous will get you there(nice kit ) on $1200 all bells and whistle to go with it
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 06:08 PM
  #16  
MasnarT's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 138
Likes: 1
From: BOISE
Default

............thanks for all the info guys!
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 06:58 PM
  #17  
Cop Car's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,520
Likes: 0
From: Indy
Default

even with a Trex and stock manifolds you would make more hp than a full bolt on car.. saying "do supporting mods first" isnt a good argument. there is absolutly no reason why you couldnt run even the biggest cam with stock manifolds.

if you want my suggestion. leave it alone. save your money, and then do EVERYTHING (headers, cam, pushrods, springs, timing chain, oil pump, stall) all at once. its what i did and id do it the same exact way again
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:13 PM
  #18  
bayer-z28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,085
Likes: 1
From: N. Falmouth MA
Default

$1200 would buy a good cam... But I wouldn't sink gears into the stock 10b. Get a Strange 12b.

Originally Posted by musclebird69
definitely go with the supporting mods first. the cam wont be able to breathe very well w/out them.

lid
headers
intake manifold (LS6)
and some gears if you have enough money (if auto)

don't worry about the tune for now. when you have some cash again, drop it on the cam and a tune.
just my suggestion.
Good point..
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:51 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE