SSRAs are being made out of a much better plastic
Originally Posted by Tainted
yea I call 
on the .3 gain i can see a tenth but not no .3
on the .3 gain i can see a tenth but not no .3you call BS on something that was tested and proven in 6 time slips??
Last edited by GR33N GoblinM6; Jan 30, 2007 at 05:01 PM.
Originally Posted by Ace$nyper
wt...f.
I've seen cam swaps change less, something else was up flat out. I know i've spoken out about ram airs before but i've never denied it may work, maybe good for 5-10 HP and if it makes you feel better to mod it.
But this thing putting out more then a set of long tubes is just laughable, and the mag that put that out even if that was the tiems changed should have put up ALOT more info then just back to back runs.
Even more so being a product that many tuners that are well respected don't buy into and or like.
I'm in no way bashing the product i'm sure it's finely made and upgrading the plastic is great, props to the maker. I'm just saying 30WHP+ and or .3 secs from this is just wow...
I've seen cam swaps change less, something else was up flat out. I know i've spoken out about ram airs before but i've never denied it may work, maybe good for 5-10 HP and if it makes you feel better to mod it.
But this thing putting out more then a set of long tubes is just laughable, and the mag that put that out even if that was the tiems changed should have put up ALOT more info then just back to back runs.
Even more so being a product that many tuners that are well respected don't buy into and or like.
I'm in no way bashing the product i'm sure it's finely made and upgrading the plastic is great, props to the maker. I'm just saying 30WHP+ and or .3 secs from this is just wow...
and you have done NO testing on your own or have any back up for what you beleive.. yet you only state what you "THINK" might work.. hmm
better read up on aerodynamics.. I have done my research as well as listen to my father who has been designing engines for Pratt & Whitney, as well as working as a design inspector for Northrup Grumman for 35 years.. He has told me countless times how ram in will not show in dyno testing and sometiems wont show in LIGHT windtunnel testing.. only when real world scenarios playout will things come to light.. you can theorize all you want, proof is byproduct..
Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
and you have done NO testing on your own or have any back up for what you beleive.. yet you only state what you "THINK" might work.. hmm
better read up on aerodynamics.. I have done my research as well as listen to my father who has been designing engines for Pratt & Whitney, as well as working as a design inspector for Northrup Grumman for 35 years.. He has told me countless times how ram in will not show in dyno testing and sometiems wont show in LIGHT windtunnel testing.. only when real world scenarios playout will things come to light.. you can theorize all you want, proof is byproduct..
better read up on aerodynamics.. I have done my research as well as listen to my father who has been designing engines for Pratt & Whitney, as well as working as a design inspector for Northrup Grumman for 35 years.. He has told me countless times how ram in will not show in dyno testing and sometiems wont show in LIGHT windtunnel testing.. only when real world scenarios playout will things come to light.. you can theorize all you want, proof is byproduct..
Great logic. If I don't think it's worth it to even test, then how does that effect you, and if you look you'll see many other people whom have tested ram air kits feel it isn't worth while. But then again that's hear say.
On a product thats so highly debated I don't think it's worth it that's all I said how I got your panties in a twist, I'm not quite sure, it wasn't my intent. The fact I still don't buy into .3 tenths untill I get to see the exact write up and heck, I want to see it happen.
Mags are paid for by adverstiers making parts look better then they are is part of their job. Now if I saw this first hand it would be a different story.
Track conditions 60" times shifting points temp etc all effect 1.4 time and trap speed. To have this be proved you'd need 2 equal drivers *good luck at that lol* making equal runs one with carbon copy cars one differing only in having a ram air on it.
I've seen cars run well over 1 full second times apart in the same day so a car that had this part put on could have run .3 faster. Was it because of just this, that's what I have to say can't be done.
ok if i came off like a jerk ... i appologize.. just one of those days and kids are driving me nuts around here..
If I had a corvette.. i sure would buy a veraram just to do my on personal tests on it, but this isnt the 1st time i have seen someone gain .2-.3 on some type of product of this nature. In fact, there was a guy selling a type of ram air for the 3rdgen TPI .. i personally bought one for my L98.. and I infact picked up .2 seconds solidly on 3 different track days at Fontana.. and since LS1 and TPI have the same "type" of intake design, i see no reason for the claims to be false.
but yes i do agree magazines are "greased" by certain people to shed their own light on things.. and make a twist here and there..
If I had a corvette.. i sure would buy a veraram just to do my on personal tests on it, but this isnt the 1st time i have seen someone gain .2-.3 on some type of product of this nature. In fact, there was a guy selling a type of ram air for the 3rdgen TPI .. i personally bought one for my L98.. and I infact picked up .2 seconds solidly on 3 different track days at Fontana.. and since LS1 and TPI have the same "type" of intake design, i see no reason for the claims to be false.
but yes i do agree magazines are "greased" by certain people to shed their own light on things.. and make a twist here and there..
Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
ok if i came off like a jerk ... i appologize.. just one of those days and kids are driving me nuts around here..
If I had a corvette.. i sure would buy a veraram just to do my on personal tests on it, but this isnt the 1st time i have seen someone gain .2-.3 on some type of product of this nature. In fact, there was a guy selling a type of ram air for the 3rdgen TPI .. i personally bought one for my L98.. and I infact picked up .2 seconds solidly on 3 different track days at Fontana.. and since LS1 and TPI have the same "type" of intake design, i see no reason for the claims to be false.
but yes i do agree magazines are "greased" by certain people to shed their own light on things.. and make a twist here and there..
If I had a corvette.. i sure would buy a veraram just to do my on personal tests on it, but this isnt the 1st time i have seen someone gain .2-.3 on some type of product of this nature. In fact, there was a guy selling a type of ram air for the 3rdgen TPI .. i personally bought one for my L98.. and I infact picked up .2 seconds solidly on 3 different track days at Fontana.. and since LS1 and TPI have the same "type" of intake design, i see no reason for the claims to be false.
but yes i do agree magazines are "greased" by certain people to shed their own light on things.. and make a twist here and there..
If I had money to blow i'd be testing it myself, I'm saving for a house so mods will only be tried and true, and few lol!
You are right about the mounting, in the place, I just wonder if any gains were to be made was it from the air ramming or the better intake tract temps?
As I said before 5-10 RHWP I can see being possible 30 or so, that I can't see.
Again, not to bash this product at all just doubt some of the claims some have made.
Originally Posted by Brian2006
Love how people can argue about anything these days 
I think he advertises 13rwhp gain at a simulated 50mph
I think he advertises 13rwhp gain at a simulated 50mph
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Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
funny thing i was ready in my Superchevy Magazine (i think it was the March issue).. that the version of SSRA or (verarams version for the Corvette) didnt show any dyno #'s at all...
BUT.. when taken to the track.. 3 passes were made with.. and 3 without it.. they picked up a solid .3 seconds in the 1/4.. equal to about 30-35hp..
so when all these people always ask for dyno graphs and such.. dyno's dont always show real world scenario's.. just thought i would pass this along to anyone that wants to do a back to back test of the SSRA at the track and see how much they gain.
BUT.. when taken to the track.. 3 passes were made with.. and 3 without it.. they picked up a solid .3 seconds in the 1/4.. equal to about 30-35hp..
so when all these people always ask for dyno graphs and such.. dyno's dont always show real world scenario's.. just thought i would pass this along to anyone that wants to do a back to back test of the SSRA at the track and see how much they gain.
Green Goblin, can you give us a link at all to that article in Super Chevy?
Originally Posted by jewbacca
lemme know if you get a GP on these, I would deffinetly be done for that.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/group-purchase-requests/649693-lm-performance-can-we-get-ssra-gp-going.html
