Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Headers over intake???

Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:26 PM
  #1  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default Headers over intake???

Im thinking about buying pacesetter headers first and then a ls6 intake, first question is this good on what i'm doin with buying headers first and then ls6 intake, second question would these headers bolt up to my slp y pipe, and third question is speed inc the cheapest place to buy these headers???
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:32 PM
  #2  
BLK02TA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,123
Likes: 0
From: Fort Knox, KY
Default

-IMO headers before the intake.
-The slp will not work as its made for stock manifolds.
-Search around the sponsers websites, they often have sales.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:38 PM
  #3  
00formLs1's Avatar
12 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
From: las cruces, new mexico
Default

first a little info on the car. its a pre 01 but what about tranny? is it a4 or m6?
if its an auto a stall converter would be a very good first mod.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:40 PM
  #4  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default

My car is a 98 Z28 with A4, also future plans hopefully would include a cam, and stall, and keeping my 2.73 gears
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:44 PM
  #5  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default

I dont want a stall know because I know that would give me terrible traction and if i get traction I dont want to break my rear end and trans so early. I was planning the stall I while back since i already bought a transmission cooler but never got to it.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:44 PM
  #6  
SSTYCOON's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
From: East
Default

you cant beat speeds inc prices......they also price match
the stall would be the best mod out of those if you got the means.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:46 PM
  #7  
BayAreaSS's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,240
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area, CA (Pittsburg)
Default

I would get headers before an ls6 intake.....actually i did
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:50 PM
  #8  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default

By the way my 60 ft times are 1.8 I dont think right know a stall could improve this by all the tire spin, would pacesetter give me good horsepower without losing low end torque on a stock cam?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:52 PM
  #9  
00formLs1's Avatar
12 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
From: las cruces, new mexico
Default

i got headers befor i got a stall and my 1/4 mile went down a from a 14.2@98 to a 14.03@100. after i got the stall i went 13.2@105.

all this is at 4200ft so thats why times sux

i felt a good difference up top thou
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:57 PM
  #10  
2000TransAmWS6's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 684
Likes: 0
From: Danville, VA
Default

Originally Posted by Candyredz28
would pacesetter give me good horsepower without losing low end torque on a stock cam?
yes,... alot of times people think that when they install longtubes it feels like they've lost some low end torque, but in reality they've gained alittle, but they gain so much in the higher RPMs that the small gain down low feels like a loss... does that make any sense?
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 08:41 PM
  #11  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default

yeah that makes sense 2000T/A WS6, so whats a good cheap y-pipe for the pacesetter headers. By the way i have gutted cats, so It dont matter about having the cats with the y-pipe.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:46 PM
  #12  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default

One more question, would it be better to get the race version since i already have gutted cats, or could be better to get the other header with all the hook ups, if i get the off road header what would i need to get rid off , or what would I need to block off. Basically what header is better to work with.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:53 PM
  #13  
Big Z's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
From: Portage, Indiana
Default

I got a great deal on my headers from texas speed along with their catted y (they have a offroad y for pretty cheap though). I got the race headers, its not hard at all to remove the AIR and EGR. read through the sticky in this forum and theres a good writeup in there on how to get e verything out, the only thing you have to block off is the egr port on the top of the intake manifold. I was very happy with the sound and the power after I put my headers on.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:57 PM
  #14  
Phil8616's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Candyredz28
My car is a 98 Z28 with A4, also future plans hopefully would include a cam, and stall, and keeping my 2.73 gears
LTs, then stall, then cam+LS6....IMO... You can get coated pacesetters shipped for around $400, throw either some duals or an ory
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 09:25 AM
  #15  
lsx24's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,556
Likes: 0
From: NC
Default

You can do either first, but headers are going to give you more of a gain. Adding an ls6 intake after that will gain even more than addiing an ls6 intake first, because of the combination. Anytime you open up the breathing of a corked up engine you are going to increase the performance, a proportionate amount. I would do headers, duals, ls6 intake, ported stock tb, lid, and call it a day. Get an asp pulley if you feel like it. With all the boltons you should be at or around 350 rwhp.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:22 AM
  #16  
wpnsman2000's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Moody AFB, GA
Default Dude

Ls1speed.com Pacesetter LT's coated 375.00 shipped free, I ordered some friday and they are here today....can't beat that!
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:34 AM
  #17  
rally2247's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
Default

I went with headers first. Then, I purchased the LS6 intake afterwards. You'll obviously get better gains with the headers, so I went with headers first.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:35 AM
  #18  
rally2247's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by wpnsman2000
Ls1speed.com Pacesetter LT's coated 375.00 shipped free, I ordered some friday and they are here today....can't beat that!
Yeap, I bought mine over a year ago and they work great. No rust, fit great for a great price.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:59 AM
  #19  
Candyredz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Irving tx
Default

Is there alot of gain with duals, if i already have a borla catback and a cut out, I just dont want to spend the extra money for the little gain
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:17 PM
  #20  
98Z28MASS's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,964
Likes: 1
From: Massachusetts
Default

Originally Posted by Candyredz28
Is there alot of gain with duals, if i already have a borla catback and a cut out, I just dont want to spend the extra money for the little gain
Gains with duals over your borla with a cutout would be minimal, maybe 5 rwhp or so. I say save the hundreds you would spend on the duals and get the ls6 intake you want as that will net you more power than getting duals would. In addition I def think that LT's should be done first over the ls6 intake manifold as the LT's will net you more power and you cant beat the sound of a LT/ORY/Borla/cutout combo.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE