Any Interest For A New !!BETTER!!! Air LiD?
i am not tryin to be an *** or a jerk, but, . . next time, . post up when you have everything ready . . .
that being said, . im interested also, . if it can be backed up with proof
that being said, . im interested also, . if it can be backed up with proof
Originally Posted by Tainted
people he'll post them up when he gets them im sure, until then quit asking jeeze
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Forgive me for sounded pessimistic but considering you also have this thread going at the moment you don't really sound like an engineer.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/658860-raspiest-true-dual-muffler.html
Well lets wait and see on:
a) What it looks like
b) How it performs
c) How much it costs
If it's expensive, ugly as sin and performs like **** then no wonder no ones bothered, but without pics and more info it's hard to tell at this point in time.
Wasted in what sense???? This makes no snese at all please expand and show me the calculations used to determine this.
How exactly are you going to force air into the throttle body??? By what means?
The only known and accepted method of forcing air is by compression. As the molecules are sparse a gases form such as air can easily be compressed to result in a higher volume of gas for the displacement.
Turbo and supercharges are accepted forms of of compression.
There are other methods such as the use of air dams and well designed intake systems. However to acheive significant compression, i.e. Ram Air you really need to be traverlling at about 350mph, it takes about 200mph before you even notice the gains.
FYI - at sub-sonic speeds to increase air pressure is done by slowing the velocity of the air, this is achieved via an opening of the passage or a reverse funnel. Hence why many race cars have very large air boxes with smallish openings on them.
If you have a regular funnel shape narrowing down then at sub-sonic speeds you are actually having an adverse affect.
At supersonic speeds (very rare for cars) the opporsit is true however.
Airbox resonance is another neat trick ofen emplyed in airbox design and again is part of the reason why competition cars have large air boxes. You can also tune the intake runners to match the engines natural harmonic frequency to promote smoother air flow.
Really 
probably not.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/658860-raspiest-true-dual-muffler.html
Originally Posted by sickws698
I decided to customize my air lid on my T/A. I dont have pics at this point but im waiting on a CAD print out to show you guys what it would look like....It would have to be an air lid and filter combo, because in order to make this work we had to modify our K&N. To be honest i cant beleave this hasent already ben produced.
a) What it looks like
b) How it performs
c) How much it costs
If it's expensive, ugly as sin and performs like **** then no wonder no ones bothered, but without pics and more info it's hard to tell at this point in time.
Originally Posted by sickws698
Its redesigned air lid That doesnt have all the waisted air flow,
Originally Posted by sickws698
It takes every bit of air coming in and FORCES it into the throttle body!
The only known and accepted method of forcing air is by compression. As the molecules are sparse a gases form such as air can easily be compressed to result in a higher volume of gas for the displacement.
Turbo and supercharges are accepted forms of of compression.
There are other methods such as the use of air dams and well designed intake systems. However to acheive significant compression, i.e. Ram Air you really need to be traverlling at about 350mph, it takes about 200mph before you even notice the gains.
FYI - at sub-sonic speeds to increase air pressure is done by slowing the velocity of the air, this is achieved via an opening of the passage or a reverse funnel. Hence why many race cars have very large air boxes with smallish openings on them.
If you have a regular funnel shape narrowing down then at sub-sonic speeds you are actually having an adverse affect.
At supersonic speeds (very rare for cars) the opporsit is true however.
Airbox resonance is another neat trick ofen emplyed in airbox design and again is part of the reason why competition cars have large air boxes. You can also tune the intake runners to match the engines natural harmonic frequency to promote smoother air flow.
Originally Posted by sickws698
I will have pics for you asap.
Originally Posted by sickws698
Would you guys be interested?
Okay heres the deal........My CAD guy brought me back a totaly f*d up drawing, So i fixed everything he did wrong and sent it back with him. he tells me ill have it by this weekend. Sorry about posting this so early i dindt have a clue it was going to take this long to have a guy draw it!!!!!!!.....It will cost around the same as the air lids out now.....100-110, You guys mite LOVE this and want it, or u mite think its a stupid idea. Ill find out when i get thesee damn pics, trust me im just as pissed as you guys are about this!
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Even though there are no pictures, I'm wondering why you can just describe the biggest changes to it from the lids already on the market. If its such a huge difference, then you should be able to describe it. Also, why not post up some rough spec and dimensions so we can at least get an isea of the size and shape.
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Originally Posted by sickws698
Okay heres the deal........My CAD guy brought me back a totaly f*d up drawing, So i fixed everything he did wrong and sent it back with him. he tells me ill have it by this weekend. Sorry about posting this so early i dindt have a clue it was going to take this long to have a guy draw it!!!!!!!.....It will cost around the same as the air lids out now.....100-110, You guys mite LOVE this and want it, or u mite think its a stupid idea. Ill find out when i get thesee damn pics, trust me im just as pissed as you guys are about this!
Josh-
Josh-
Draw something in Paint????
BOSS APPROVED!
Ill have pics for you as soon as i get them, its not like im holding out on you guys on.. They told me i will have them by this weekend and its friday so im guessing tomarrow( HOPING) You guys will know when I know
If you guys end up liking this product once you FINALLY get to see it, I wouldnt mind making up a 90 opening on it. my g/f's dad owns a tool and die shop so any molds i need made up he does for free. So depending on how many guys want a 90 i wouldnt mind having him make up a mold for me and then have produced.
Originally Posted by sickws698
I really dont know how to explain it with out getting the idea across. I still havent heard from my guy so im ganna have to give him a call today again.
