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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Default After installing headers, do I now need a tune?

Ive been told that the MAS should do any adjusting that may be needed. But Iv also heard that Id need a tune. My understanding is that a tune is not needed unless im doing something internal like a cam.

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Yea a tune will make it run better and give you about 10 wheel hp from what i have seen.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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a tune will take uot any codes, and get you more power and adjust everything right off the bat. I recommend it, I did my tune when I got my headers and I know for a fact it helped me out.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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I've spent the weekend tuning my car after headers. different things changed everything from the seat of the pants acceleration to the sound of the exhaust. So I'd say yes also.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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you don't need a full tune- If you have a local shop that works on ls1's they most likely keept a tune for headers that they can work off of for your car. Most shops charge about 150-200 for a basic tune and up to 400-500 for a full tune.

I would reccomend a tune a tune either way- it will only help you.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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To get the most out of the headers, a tune is a good idea!
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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it will help but is not NEEDED...if u plan bigger and better things in the near future(cam, gear or so on) id wait and pay the big bucks then and not big bucks now AND THEN
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Yeah a tuned helped out alot on my car. It also increses throttle response and the car sounds alot crisper at wot.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Thanks guys
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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With a headers install couldn't you just tune with a handheld instead of going to a shop to get that extra ten hp?
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Get a full dyno tune. It will clean up your air/fuel ratio and improve high end hp and also throttle response. Recommended any time you drastically change airflow, like with headers, to get what your potential is.

Remember future re-tunes are usually much less, so when you get a cam you can get a retune for less than the full price.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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I would highly recommend it, made a world of difference with my old car.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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so what exactly do you tune on a basic tune after headers? besides air fuel ratio and deleting any codes..is that it or can ther be more to mess with to get a better outcome..
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MidwayAvenue
so what exactly do you tune on a basic tune after headers? besides air fuel ratio and deleting any codes..is that it or can ther be more to mess with to get a better outcome..
For a full tune a few different things are done, depending on the tuner. Air/fuel ratio, timing, VE tables, fan settings, MAF adjustments for big cams, A4 tuning if A4....
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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I'm about 30 hp down from where I should be because I didn't get a tune.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DANSBIRD
Ive been told that the MAS should do any adjusting that may be needed. But Iv also heard that Id need a tune. My understanding is that a tune is not needed unless im doing something internal like a cam.

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if you plan on adding heads and cam, wait til tune the car then!!!

if your just staying bolt on, then tune it now!

you car run without a tune on headers! You will just have an SES code and run alittle rich in gas!!
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well i got a dyno tune after i did my headers...b4 i had manifolds with an ory and all other boltons with a street tune. after the headers i went to get the dyno tune and half way threw the first pull he aborted the it...it was at 15:1 afr.. thats how lean just headers made my car....crazy yes but its possible...now you do have cats so that might change a couple things but i would just to be safe...
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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dan, as slow as you are with mods i would say get a full dyno tune

atleast get a street tune though. whatever you do, don't waste your money on a handheld tuner.....
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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My car is running like absolute hell right now. It kinda sputters a bit while in gear. Is this due to the lack of a tune? or something else? PS, i havent checked the plug wires, but it only happens on occasion, not all of the time
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