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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Okay, don't have any before numbers. But I did run 3 runs on a dynojet chassis dyno this weekend mainly to check the fueling on a wide band. But the numbers were a bit dissappointing I thought. I made 305 hp and 308 ft/lbs pulling in 3rd with the convertor unlocked. Mods are in sig.

The air/fuel graph was really flat and hovered around the 13.5-13.6 range. I'm going to post the dyno and fuel graphs so you guys can see what's up.

Maybe the dyno was reading low? An 04 mustang GT 5 speed got up after me and only laid down 208 rwhp. My old 00 GT 5 speed laid down 245 rwhp with only exhaust mods.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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you have an auto your dyno numbers are allways gonna suck ***.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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You're running lean and the PCM may be pulling timing in response to the knock sensors detecting some detonation. I'd be willing to bet if you bettered your AFR down to something in the 12.5~12.9 range, you'd pick up another 10hp. Aside from that, you should do a run with the converter locked if you want to compare your numbers to an M6. Do both of those and you should see something in the 320rwhp range.
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Yea unlocked conveter = low numbers

seems about right for your situation
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Auto's always dyno lower and as for headers my philospohy is you pay for you get.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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How to lock and unlock coverters?
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LOCKED and unlocked are gonna give you to vary diffrent numbers and you would lock it thru the the computer. (laptop)
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^^Thanks for the info. No other way else?
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Typically you can't lock the converter except with HPTUners (or other software).

But you don't want to dyno locked, because you don't run like that on the street.

It does however give you a better representation of bhp.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Auto's always dyno lower and as for headers my philospohy is you pay for you get.
You get what you pay for huh. Well, the pacesetters looked excellent and installed like gravy. Also the butt-o-meter says there is definetly more power on tap than before. I'd put the race pacesetters up against any other header with the same size primaries in a back to back dyno anyday. I got a benjamin that says there would be no difference.

Yeah, I figured the unlocked convertor was costing me some dyno power but didn't have anyway to lock the convertor since I was running the car at a Fun Ford event You should've seen the look on that mustang owners face after he pulled 208 then watched me make 305 through and auto!!

I've got Bryan at PCMforless making me a new tune with a 1/2 point of fuel added as we speak.
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Yeap, thats exactly what I said.

Good luck with them.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
You're running lean and the PCM may be pulling timing in response to the knock sensors detecting some detonation. I'd be willing to bet if you bettered your AFR down to something in the 12.5~12.9 range, you'd pick up another 10hp. Aside from that, you should do a run with the converter locked if you want to compare your numbers to an M6. Do both of those and you should see something in the 320rwhp range.

You know, I have heard it ping before a couple of times. You may be on to something here. It pings cause it's lean, and pulls timing causing my low dynos. Hmmmmm.........let me get on the phone with Bryan at PCMforless.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Wow those numbers do seem a little low with the mods you have but it's all in the tune man...that's gotta be your problem.
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FWIW, there's about a 40-difference in my car between a locked and unlocked computer. It sounds like you're on the right track.

Don't give up!
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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i had my car tuned and dynoed a few months back and ended up with 318/332....cars an auto w/pacesetters.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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auto car here with pacesetters..and love them...but the # do seem a lil low..
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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The peak torque just seemed really low to me. Don't get me wrong, the car feels much stronger with the longtubes on. Last time at the track I ran a 13.1@105 with stock manifolds and Y-pipe with a 1.9 60' and about 1200 DA. The car feels much stronger now though. I'll get some new times at the same track this Friday and we'll see whats up.

Bryan is going to add some fuel to it for me, and I'm waiting for my dyno graph from Dynojet (their printer was broke) in my E-mail.

I've heard it said before "dyno numbers mean nothing........what does it run at the track?"

We shall see.
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