Pro Stock John

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Right now I have TTS longtubes, going into 3" duals into Dynomax bullets with turndowns before the rear axle.

I removed my upper panhard bar, anyone have 3" all the way to the back?

I have a lead on some used Borla XR1 Sportsman race mufflers (center inlet/outlet), and have been contemplating doing that or frankly putting my Y pipe back on with a quiet muffler and dual cutouts... Car is pretty much RACECAR loud.

Black Sunshine/ 00SS

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yes, I have it.

Pro Stock John

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2.5 or 3?

If 3, where did you guys route the driver's side over-axle pipe?

Black Sunshine/ 00SS

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It's almost a mirror image of the pasenger side. It is 3", from the front to the back, and yes, it is loud!!

Pro Stock John

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Are you running two bullets Harold?

1BADWS6@STENOD

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I have the same exhaust as Harold, done by the same guy. Yes 2 3" Bullets. Mine sit just before the bumper, behind the tire, with 3" turn downs.

Reckless

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Generally speaking, mufflers that far back are pretty useless on duals. Might as well not use any. If you want any "muffling", you need the bullets ahead of the axle somewhere. You can run over the axle by moving some stuff around (fuel lines, evap stuff, ABS stuff). I considred it, but went under instead <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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I might be able to run the Borla mufflers before axle though the ground clearance might be kind of crappy.

I would not personally advocate running the exhuast below the axle like Todd (no flames) because I can't drive around with that kind of ground clearance.

Maybe I can get Speed Inc. to take a pic of my exhaust since my car is there now.

Terry Burger

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You change exhaust systems more often than I wash my car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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My current setup, TTS longtubes, 3" duals and bullets with dumps at the axle, is peerless. It does not get get better than this except for me to run step headers.

But, it's too loud with my 422. I mean like open cutout loud... Like I have two cutouts.

Hell the old Mufflex was never this bad but I sold it.

blackhawk2000

I haven't done this but, why not run 3" all the way back, with the driver side right next to the pass side? If a 4" pipe fits thru there, why not 2 3" pipes? The main clearance issue is from the axle to the floorboard right? Not from side to side? If you go that way, you can put a dual inlet/outlet muffler where a loudmouths resonator would go. My car is slightly lowered and has never bottomed out on the resonator. To keep the exhaust pipes close to the same length you could even criss cross the pipes after the axle, and make the pass side dump under the bumper on the drivers side.

BTW Harold the pic of your duals I was hosting is no more. As I'm sure you know Comcast took over @home. Let me know if you need it hosted again <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

TrahnZam WS6

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong>My current setup, TTS longtubes, 3" duals and bullets with dumps at the axle, is peerless. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, an even better setup would have stepped dynatechs, custom 3" merge collectors and an X-pipe. I wonder who has that setup? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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Sounds like a killer setup but I don't need an X pipe I have no need to boost low end tq.

There really is not enuff ground clearance to put the mufflers before the rear axle.

Black Sun, how far from the sides of the are your pipes before the axle? I need someone who mandrel bends 3" to make me over the axle pipes.

XtraCajunSS

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong>Sounds like a killer setup but I don't need an X pipe I have no need to boost low end tq.

There really is not enuff ground clearance to put the mufflers before the rear axle.

Black Sun, how far from the sides of the are your pipes before the axle? I need someone who mandrel bends 3" to make me over the axle pipes.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">PSJ,

I will have the TTS LT's 3" true duals with X pipe and bullets on my solid cammed 409 soon. I have been told that the X-pipe really quiets down the setup. It should be done in the next month or so. If you aren't in too much of a hurry, I can send you a sound clip when its done. Also, I will be exiting out the sides right before the rear tires with NASCAR style oval tips.

Shane

<small>[ March 21, 2002, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: XtraCajunSS ]</small>

ktm520

not only does an x-pipe quiet the sound, but it boosts power over the entire rpm range, not just low-end torq. if they boosted low-end torq only, why would Nascars be running x-pipes? think about it.

2000 Camaro SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>You change exhaust systems more often than I wash my car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Get back to work Terry! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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Good points I don't follow Nascar. Aren't Nascar motors running with certain restrictions? I am also a 422ci not a 350ci if that matters.

ktm520

when you look at how an x-pipe produces its gains, it doesn't matter if you are making 300 hp or 500 hp. an x-pipe corrects inbalance in the exhaust pipes, which further aids in scavaging. it is the same concept as an H-pipe, but due too its shape, the gases flow much better. the reason i used the nascars as a comparison, is because you before stated that you didn't need the extra low-end. well, the engines in stock cars are continuoulsy operating between 7k and 9k rpm. the only time they use low-end torque is on the starts.

basic, x-pipe boost power and lower db's over the entire rpm range, which lends them to any exhaust application running duals. if you wants some more info, eventhough it is basically a sales pitch, go to dr. gases website drgas.com

this is what i have learned about x-pipes. if i have stated any misconceptions, somebody please step in and correct me.

later