X or H??
X or H?? Im contemplating true duals dumped and was thinking an H pipe if possible for the sound difference, is it easy to tuck an H under there or is that why most people use a small X instead? How many of you are running a H-pipe??
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most people go with an x-pipe because:
1.) the two systems made for our car, the TSP system and the bassani system, both use x-pipes
2.) the x-pipe give greater peak numbers, and that's what most people are concerned about
which is better? you could go back and forth for ages. i personally prefer an H-pipe. why?
1.) it doesn't push the torque curve up as much, giving better throttle response and low-end power, making it better for a daily driver since you don't have to rev as high to get the power
2.) while sound is subjective, most people will tell you the H-pipe sounds better. it's deeper and more old-school while the x-pipe is more high-pitched and tinny by comparison.
the H-pipe will provide better gains in the real-world powerband where you spend nearly all your time - under 3,000 rpms. while the x-pipe may produce higher numbers above 5,000 rpms, how much time are you really spending there? if your car is a track **** and you like to brag about dyno graphs, then by all means get the x-pipe. if you want more low-end and want your car to sound as good as possible at the expense of a few peak horsepower, go H-pipe. it's that simple.
personally, my favorite is the flowmaster D-port pipe that has the sound/construction of an H-pipe with improved scavenging like an x-pipe. i may go that route when i get my TD's made. sponsors don't carry it, so it should be okay to mention summit carries it for a very good price. i would research that a little bit if you want IMO the ultimate mix of sound and performance. jmm98ls1 has this kit and he has, IMO, the best sounding car on tech.
1.) the two systems made for our car, the TSP system and the bassani system, both use x-pipes
2.) the x-pipe give greater peak numbers, and that's what most people are concerned about
which is better? you could go back and forth for ages. i personally prefer an H-pipe. why?
1.) it doesn't push the torque curve up as much, giving better throttle response and low-end power, making it better for a daily driver since you don't have to rev as high to get the power
2.) while sound is subjective, most people will tell you the H-pipe sounds better. it's deeper and more old-school while the x-pipe is more high-pitched and tinny by comparison.
the H-pipe will provide better gains in the real-world powerband where you spend nearly all your time - under 3,000 rpms. while the x-pipe may produce higher numbers above 5,000 rpms, how much time are you really spending there? if your car is a track **** and you like to brag about dyno graphs, then by all means get the x-pipe. if you want more low-end and want your car to sound as good as possible at the expense of a few peak horsepower, go H-pipe. it's that simple.
personally, my favorite is the flowmaster D-port pipe that has the sound/construction of an H-pipe with improved scavenging like an x-pipe. i may go that route when i get my TD's made. sponsors don't carry it, so it should be okay to mention summit carries it for a very good price. i would research that a little bit if you want IMO the ultimate mix of sound and performance. jmm98ls1 has this kit and he has, IMO, the best sounding car on tech.
I have an x-pipe but i would rather have an H. I only have an x because i got the duals from a friend and couldnt pass up the deal.
My original plan was to get and H-pipe setup because i wanted more grunt down low
My original plan was to get and H-pipe setup because i wanted more grunt down low
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Originally Posted by roadhog_113
my H-pipe sounds awsome will never switch and it isn't even mandrel bent. I'm gonna do a custom fabbed 3" mandrel bent H-pipe side exit system this summer.
Originally Posted by Louie83
Personally, I like the sound of an X better. I like the crisp sound, so don't take anyone's word for it. Listen to them and decide for yourself.
On ls1sounds there isnt very many H set ups dumped, they are mostly X. i would rather have the bassy muscle car sound anyway so im gonna go with an H. I was also wondering about fitment, i want it tucked nicely, im lowered and dont need to rip it off pulling in somewhere lol..
i fabbed up an H pipe system for a friend. Consisted of pacesetters, h pipe, and bullets...all in 3 inch.
Sounded very much like a sidepiped vette. Really deep.
Or you could go totally against the grain and make a prochamber like i just did.
Sounded very much like a sidepiped vette. Really deep.
Or you could go totally against the grain and make a prochamber like i just did.
Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
1.) it doesn't push the torque curve up as much, giving better throttle response and low-end power, making it better for a daily driver since you don't have to rev as high to get the power
the H-pipe will provide better gains in the real-world powerband where you spend nearly all your time - under 3,000 rpms. while the x-pipe may produce higher numbers above 5,000 rpms, how much time are you really spending there? if your car is a track **** and you like to brag about dyno graphs, then by all means get the x-pipe. if you want more low-end and want your car to sound as good as possible at the expense of a few peak horsepower, go H-pipe. it's that simple..
the H-pipe will provide better gains in the real-world powerband where you spend nearly all your time - under 3,000 rpms. while the x-pipe may produce higher numbers above 5,000 rpms, how much time are you really spending there? if your car is a track **** and you like to brag about dyno graphs, then by all means get the x-pipe. if you want more low-end and want your car to sound as good as possible at the expense of a few peak horsepower, go H-pipe. it's that simple..
Im kind of curious what kind of data you have that supports your statements.
(even though ive never even heard t/d's with an X)