Are headers worth it?
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Are headers worth it? What do you all think? how much power can u get out of headers and a Y pipe?? im gona pull my cats right now.. but will headers and a y pipe give u much power on a almost stock motor?? or should i go with a chip first then headers?
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Are headers worth it? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TravWS6:
<strong>thanx for all the replies guys.. so i should get about 20 hp from long tubes then eh.. sounds pretty good.. but what proof do u guys have?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We don't need proof <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Best mod I ever did <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> The sound and newfound power was well worth it.I bet they will shine better now since I've got a Cam in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>thanx for all the replies guys.. so i should get about 20 hp from long tubes then eh.. sounds pretty good.. but what proof do u guys have?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We don't need proof <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Best mod I ever did <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> The sound and newfound power was well worth it.I bet they will shine better now since I've got a Cam in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Are headers worth it? ditto on what everyone else said....in a word...YES, they are definatly worth every penny....i gained 17rwhp and 22 rwtq on a stock motor! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Re: Are headers worth it? Are all of the gains that you guys posted over the stock manifolds/cats/Y-pipe setup? I’m wondering how big the gain really is if you already have a good flowing 2.5” ORY. Then in essence all you’re upgrading is just the manifolds. Seems like ORYs are worth about 10hp, so then if you’ve gained 20hp with LTs you can figure that 10 of that gain was just from ditching the cats I guess.
$1000+ seems like a lot for 10hp, if that's the case. If anyone has gained 20hp over an exisiting ORY, then that would be a good gain...
$1000+ seems like a lot for 10hp, if that's the case. If anyone has gained 20hp over an exisiting ORY, then that would be a good gain...
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Re: Are headers worth it? LT Headers definately compliment a moderately modded car. I just can't justify spending $1200 for 20 HP. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Of course i'm a cheap @$$. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Re: Are headers worth it? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99BlueZ28:
<strong>LT Headers definately compliment a moderately modded car. I just can't justify spending $1200 for 20 HP. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Of course i'm a cheap @$$. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have the same problem. Now that I’m cammed and soon to have heads, I would like to get headers, but the cost is HUGE for exhaust pipes. That’s why I’m wondering how much I’d really gain since I already have a good flowing ORY...
<strong>LT Headers definately compliment a moderately modded car. I just can't justify spending $1200 for 20 HP. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Of course i'm a cheap @$$. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have the same problem. Now that I’m cammed and soon to have heads, I would like to get headers, but the cost is HUGE for exhaust pipes. That’s why I’m wondering how much I’d really gain since I already have a good flowing ORY...
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Re: Are headers worth it? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RPM WS6:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99BlueZ28:
<strong>LT Headers definately compliment a moderately modded car. I just can't justify spending $1200 for 20 HP. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Of course i'm a cheap @$$. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have the same problem. Now that I’m cammed and soon to have heads, I would like to get headers, but the cost is HUGE for exhaust pipes. That’s why I’m wondering how much I’d really gain since I already have a good flowing ORY...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well...since you're cammed and soon to see heads...you'll get a lot more HP out of the headers than what stock internal guys see.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99BlueZ28:
<strong>LT Headers definately compliment a moderately modded car. I just can't justify spending $1200 for 20 HP. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Of course i'm a cheap @$$. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have the same problem. Now that I’m cammed and soon to have heads, I would like to get headers, but the cost is HUGE for exhaust pipes. That’s why I’m wondering how much I’d really gain since I already have a good flowing ORY...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well...since you're cammed and soon to see heads...you'll get a lot more HP out of the headers than what stock internal guys see.
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Re: Are headers worth it? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TravWS6:
<strong>What do you all think? how much power can u get out of headers and a Y pipe?? im gona pull my cats right now.. but will headers and a y pipe give u much power on a almost stock motor?? or should i go with a chip first then headers?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Headers are definitely worth the money and the gain on stock internals. A chip is definitely not worth the money. You won't need any kind of programming really, until you start breakin into the engine like cam and heads, etc.
<strong>What do you all think? how much power can u get out of headers and a Y pipe?? im gona pull my cats right now.. but will headers and a y pipe give u much power on a almost stock motor?? or should i go with a chip first then headers?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Headers are definitely worth the money and the gain on stock internals. A chip is definitely not worth the money. You won't need any kind of programming really, until you start breakin into the engine like cam and heads, etc.
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Re: Are headers worth it? Started her up for the first time since I started the install. I had a smile on my face all night. It sounds insane! I already forgot about the $1200. It sounds, feels, and looks awesome. The throttle response and the sound are the most impressive improvements over the stock mannys. I can tell an improvement in acceleration. Heads and cam packages will really complement these headers.
