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Old May 2, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Any News On The New Itb That Kinsler Is Developing For Ls Engine That Was Mentioned On Here A Few Months Ago In The Itb Thread. I Think Argon Z Was A Working On It.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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http://www.kinsler.com/manifolds2/manifoldsGM.htm
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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see,
how come no one makes a super ram for the ls1
like the bbc one?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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There already seems to be a vertical stack model available, but the one being worked on was/is a cross-ram style for LS7 heads. There didn't seem to be much enthusiasm for it in this community, people were balking at the price. But to me, $3K to make a big cam drivable is not such a bad deal at all, compared to the $$ I just shelled out for an LS7 crate motor.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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that is sweet. very nice on the eyes. a really nice show piece. but a lot of money.
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would it benefit to have a cross ram type manifold using only 2 tb's? i've had some ideas of designing one. at least when i get out of school, that is.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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yeah waay to expensive i guess th ITB in the title stands for in the butt when you pay for it
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Originally Posted by 8ty8 LS1
would it benefit to have a cross ram type manifold using only 2 tb's? i've had some ideas of designing one. at least when i get out of school, that is.
Not much benefit to doing that. The major benefit of ITB intakes for street motors is that the throttle plate in close proximity to the intake valve blocks most of the exhaust reversion from a large cam, and prevents the reversion from contaminating other cylinders through the common plenum, thus allowing a much bigger cam before idle and drivability degrades. As soon as you have runners sharing a common plenum, that advantage goes away.

The expense is beyond most people's budgets, but like many things if you can afford it the benefits are big. You can run a 250 @ .050 cam with small LSA, and still idle and drive great. Considering some folks ante up nearly $2k just for headers, this is actually pretty good value on a high dollar build. And it's not a ripoff - consider the fact that you're buying 8 precision machined throttle bodies instead of one, and you can see where the manufacturing costs come from.
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Most will never understand the possibilities of a ITB intake.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
Most will never understand the possibilities of a ITB intake.
or the limitations.
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Im not a fabricator, so the onlything that turns me off to it is no bolt on way to filter the air.
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Originally Posted by DONAIMIAN
Im not a fabricator, so the onlything that turns me off to it is no bolt on way to filter the air.
I wonder/worry about the trumpet height and having a custom vertical air box. Seems like it be better for the trumpets to 90* to each side of the engine bay and run independent air boxes for each bank. This is of course speculation because I havent even seen them anywhere but pictures.
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Im not a fabricator, so the onlything that turns me off to it is no bolt on way to filter the air.
8 individual K&N's. Unless you can build a large box design to bolt to the plates, you'll end up hendering the possibilities of the intake. Building a large box with a huge filtering area really isn't an option in the F-body chasis, so i believe the 8 filters will work best. I plan to install the intake and buy the biggest/longest filters I can fit. I'm limited to 4"s in diameter because of the trumpet spacing, and I'm hoping I can fit a 5" to 6" long in there. Hopefully that will be enough for 1 cylinder.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
8 individual K&N's. Unless you can build a large box design to bolt to the plates, you'll end up hendering the possibilities of the intake. Building a large box with a huge filtering area really isn't an option in the F-body chasis, so i believe the 8 filters will work best. I plan to install the intake and buy the biggest/longest filters I can fit. I'm limited to 4"s in diameter because of the trumpet spacing, and I'm hoping I can fit a 5" to 6" long in there. Hopefully that will be enough for 1 cylinder.
The entire set-up, ready to bolt on and tune........

Kinsler LS1/2/6 intake.....$10,000 Just spoke to them.

Harrop it is.

Have you measured to see how the Harrop will fit under the cowl?


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Originally Posted by Quickin
The entire set-up, ready to bolt on and tune........

Kinsler LS1/2/6 intake.....$10,000 Just spoke to them.

Harrop it is.

Have you measured to see how the Harrop will fit under the cowl?


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Wow, what happened to affordable? I thought they were trying to come in with or below the competition?

As for fitment, another member/shop owner posted picks of the Harrop in a TA. He said it fit fine. I figured it would from the measuments Harrop sent me.

Pics here: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...85#post5926285

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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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I know Kinsler is a really great quality product but has anyone ever seen or delt with this ITB manifold. They claim to have a LS1 Intake but I have never seen it. The shop I work for just ordered one for a Ford 351W based engine we are building. They are MUCH cheaper than kinsler... at least for the FORD stuff.
http://www.imagineinjection.com/products.html
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jmalibuss
I know Kinsler is a really great quality product but has anyone ever seen or delt with this ITB manifold. They claim to have a LS1 Intake but I have never seen it. The shop I work for just ordered one for a Ford 351W based engine we are building. They are MUCH cheaper than kinsler... at least for the FORD stuff.
http://www.imagineinjection.com/products.html
When I spoke with them (Kinsler) today they told me that one of their guys has one and its running on an LS1 perfectly. Street driven, very smooth. The engine was installed in a kit car.


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Originally Posted by Quickin
When I spoke with them (Kinsler) today they told me that one of their guys has one and its running on an LS1 perfectly. Street driven, very smooth. The engine was installed in a kit car.


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Yeah I am sure they wouldnt be biased about their product. They would always be honest and tell you if they had problems with it.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Yeah I am sure they wouldnt be biased about their product. They would always be honest and tell you if they had problems with it.
I wouldn't believe it until In saw it running either, I was just saying that "they" said they have one running PERFECTLY on an LS1.


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You mean this one?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=kinsler
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