New Kinsler Itb Manifold
Teching In
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I have the kinsler set up on my truck and it put out really good power. Almost 40 ft lbs more torque then a similar LS engine. 591 hp and 584 torque. The torque curve was flat from 3200 on. I'm ordering another today for my LSX engine project I'm now working on, they are expensive but they work really well.
www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com look under projects for the C6-57
http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.c...album=3&page=5
www.ironworksspeedandkustom.com look under projects for the C6-57
http://www.ironworksspeedandkustom.c...album=3&page=5
Last edited by ironworks; Jun 12, 2007 at 11:29 AM.
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I'm working on a plate that will have o-ring machined in that sets on the top of the stacks for and will be the base for the plenum. It will lift up with the hood.
I may also just switch between bare stacks like I have now and slip in individual filters.
On the LSX engine My plan is to make a common plenum from the blower.
Rodger
I may also just switch between bare stacks like I have now and slip in individual filters.
On the LSX engine My plan is to make a common plenum from the blower.
Rodger
Originally Posted by ironworks
I'm working on a plate that will have o-ring machined in that sets on the top of the stacks for and will be the base for the plenum. It will lift up with the hood.
Of course, with that truck, it could be such a large plenum that it wouldn't matter... But then, what are you doing for an air filter into the plenum?
Just curious.
Spent the last 10 min drooling at your web site.
Launching!
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From: Portland OR
Originally Posted by Sharpe
But, what about these people saying that plenums hurt the benefits of the ITBs?
Teching In
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Well thanks, we are just some hillbillies from bakersfield with an arc welder and harbor frieght bench grinder bench grinder.
The reason for the common plenum on the LSX is that we are using a tall deck LS Block, So I have to either fab the manifold or run a ITB setup. But with a blower I do not think it will matter. Especially with all the boost. The famous Mule that was built a while back did the same set up. We are looking for dumb Horsepower numbers with a huge Procharger.
On the truck I plan to build basically a filter airbox that is attached to the hood I'm sure it will hurt peak numbers a little bit. but I'm not building an all out race car. If i was that concerned I would not have ran the 22" rear tires. It will run good, but I'm not going for the bud pole award.
Rodger
The reason for the common plenum on the LSX is that we are using a tall deck LS Block, So I have to either fab the manifold or run a ITB setup. But with a blower I do not think it will matter. Especially with all the boost. The famous Mule that was built a while back did the same set up. We are looking for dumb Horsepower numbers with a huge Procharger.
On the truck I plan to build basically a filter airbox that is attached to the hood I'm sure it will hurt peak numbers a little bit. but I'm not building an all out race car. If i was that concerned I would not have ran the 22" rear tires. It will run good, but I'm not going for the bud pole award.
Rodger
Last edited by ironworks; Jun 12, 2007 at 12:43 PM.
Originally Posted by 71CamaroLS1
As long as the plenum is before the throttle blades, the primary benefits of an ITB remain. The only thing you have to worry about is making the plenum flow enough, and have a fairly large volume relative to the runners.
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From: Michigan, auburn HIlls
Our manifolds certainly are not $10,000.
They are less then half that. Even with an aftermaket ECU, wire harness, injectors and the works $10,000 would be high.
I do have a ls-7 manifold on my "kit car." I enjoy driving it very much. Thorttle tip in/ response is better then any car I have ever driven.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
jamesp@kinsler.com
They are less then half that. Even with an aftermaket ECU, wire harness, injectors and the works $10,000 would be high.
I do have a ls-7 manifold on my "kit car." I enjoy driving it very much. Thorttle tip in/ response is better then any car I have ever driven.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
jamesp@kinsler.com
Last edited by Argon Z; Sep 22, 2007 at 08:27 AM.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
The entire set-up, ready to bolt on and tune........
Kinsler LS1/2/6 intake.....$10,000 Just spoke to them.
Harrop it is.
Have you measured to see how the Harrop will fit under the cowl?
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Kinsler LS1/2/6 intake.....$10,000 Just spoke to them.
Harrop it is.
Have you measured to see how the Harrop will fit under the cowl?
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are u sure they said 10 k????-thats a lot and not worth it at all-it may work it may look good but 10 k looks better in my pocket-
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Originally Posted by Argon Z
I do have a ls-7 manifold on my "kit car." I enjoy driving it very much.
Teching In
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Originally Posted by Quickin
The entire set-up, ready to bolt on and tune........
Kinsler LS1/2/6 intake.....$10,000 Just spoke to them.
Harrop it is.
Have you measured to see how the Harrop will fit under the cowl?
.
Kinsler LS1/2/6 intake.....$10,000 Just spoke to them.
Harrop it is.
Have you measured to see how the Harrop will fit under the cowl?
.
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Our manifold is NOT $10,000. It is about half of that.
Our cross ram manifold has two injector locations. Both aim in the correct direction. The high location is for better air to fuel mixture/atomization. This injector has a compound angle that follows the center line of the runner. The lower injector also follows the center of the runner (8 degrees off parallel.)
We are machining the manifold NOW and should be available in a few weeks.
Keep in mind the below pictures do not show fuel rails, paint, or linkage.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
Kinsler.com
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Our cross ram manifold has two injector locations. Both aim in the correct direction. The high location is for better air to fuel mixture/atomization. This injector has a compound angle that follows the center line of the runner. The lower injector also follows the center of the runner (8 degrees off parallel.)
We are machining the manifold NOW and should be available in a few weeks.
Keep in mind the below pictures do not show fuel rails, paint, or linkage.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
Kinsler.com
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Staging Lane
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Originally Posted by Argon Z
We are machining the manifold NOW and should be available in a few weeks.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
Kinsler.com
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
Kinsler.com
I've a couple of questions for you. You have posted in the past about the possibility of using drive-by-wire throttle control on this new manifold. Is that going to be a reality? How about the plenum(s)/intake ducting for this manifold you previously mentioned?
Originally Posted by Argon Z
We are machining the manifold NOW and should be available in a few weeks.
Keep in mind the below pictures do not show fuel rails, paint, or linkage.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
Kinsler.com
Will your R&D be worked around the Electronic Throttle and OEM PCM of my 2002 ZO6?
Do you plan to provide to your customers a tuning base line (HPTuners in my case) to start with?
How will be the fitting under the stock hood and what kind of air filter / air box?
Christian
Originally Posted by Argon Z
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
As written in your post #34 I did ask you questions in my post #37...
Since then you have visited this forum more than once and didn't found the opportunity to answer, am I missing something?
Anyway I continue exploring this ITB item, Australia and Europe seeming to be the right place to obtain answers...
I like this produce below, looking like a well thought mechanical piece from 2002 or around (similarities with the C5r), possibility to mount the air box on the top of the complete system, finition wise the picture will say all...
What do you guys think about it?
Christian
Robs new 388, na motor runs 9.6 @ 143 YOU GUYS SEE THIS ?
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...ZO6_709173.htm
9.6 First pass @ 143 mph. Sixty foot was 1.39
Here is a link: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/perf...7-144-mph.html
Pitt
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...ZO6_709173.htm
9.6 First pass @ 143 mph. Sixty foot was 1.39
Here is a link: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/perf...7-144-mph.html
Pitt
