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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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just bought my friends TSP true duals off him and now im wondering if i could do it myself. my friend told me how u need to use a lot of force to get the duals up high, and if u dont u will have crappy clearance. he said the best thing to do is to get a lift. is this true? right now my y pipe is welded to my headers. would it be that hard to cut it off and clamp on the duals and get decent clearance by just using jack stands?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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anybody at all?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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dont do it with jack stands, your going to need alot of force and jackstands arent always the best thing when doing that...also if your Y is overlaping the headers, your going to have to expand the duals opening so it will fit over...

the car NEEDS to be on a lift....for proper fitment and being able to look at it from different angles..
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Old May 17, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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well that kinda sucks, didnt really feel like dishing out another $150 for someone to do it. thanks for the reply, anyone else with any input?
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:05 AM
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Its not hard to put them on. I just placed jackstands under the front of the car and used rhino ramps to support the rear of the car and used my jack with a piece of wood (2x4) to support the duals while I mounted everything. It helps to have a buddy to keep everything steady. Not sure about the welded y-pipe. It depends if the y-pipe is welded over or inside the header and how far the y-pipe is on/in the collector.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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well that kinda sucks, didnt really feel like dishing out another $150 for someone to do it. thanks for the reply, anyone else with any input?
I did mine on cinder blocks and wood planksfrom HomeDepot.
Gets the car plenty high for this install.
I use them every time I work on the car, they come in pretty handy.
And they're cheap.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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I used a lift and it took a maximum of 45 mins to take the old exhaust off and put the duals on. It goes real smooth on a lift. The hardest part was getting the y that I had just put on off.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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You can get it high enough with jackstands and please don't use cinder blocks like Dirty John said I had a person around here get killed because the cinder block just crushed and the car fell on him. It would be alot safer with jackstands just take your time and have a friend help and you can get it done.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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don't use cinder blocks!!!!! PLEASE don't die installing your exhaust!!!!
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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I must be crazy then using them every time I put my car up.
I've had this argument before and I'm pretty sure there CAN be a right way and a wrong way to do it, but I'm not going to argue it again.
When I get crushed and my relatives post a "tommy's dead his car crushed him after his cinder blocks crumbled" thread you can all come on and make fun of me.

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Actually yeah, don't anyone even think of using them, absolutely not.
I'm not going to be the one responsible.
Definitely use jack stands like everyone else does as there's no way anything can go wrong with those.
I can't believe this argument actually gets under my skin.
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You can break a cinder block pretty easy, I wouldnt put a car on top of them. Try and break a jack stand, car ramp, and a cinder block and see which one breaks first.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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umm i did mine with jackstands.. they could be up a little higher, but my fitment is great..
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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i remember breaking cinder blocks in karate, that was fun!
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You want the car loaded (as in, on all 4 wheels) when installing them, as far as I recall. I put all 4 wheels on rhino ramps and did it in a few hours (including flipping the lines, adjusting for best clearance, and smashing the underbody).

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Old May 17, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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I wouldnt use cinder blocks either.

Do like lastcall190 said and use 4 car ramps with the suspension loaded.

That way you have a better idea of how the clearance is coming along as you are installing them.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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ok thanks a lot guys. im going to attempt it tomorrow morning, hopefully all goes well
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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yeah from experience i know cinder blocks break pretty easy. throw a cinder block on the ground and then a jack stand.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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To be fair, and moreover accurate.
After getting irritated at the facts as I see them, mostly me being alive and not crushed for over 2 years now, and everything people are saying, I looked into it a little.
Turns out I actually have "concrete" blocks, which upon further investigation are different from "cinder" blocks most notably in regards to their weight, composition and strength.
I am definitely not telling anyone to go out and try it because obviously its a death trap, but wanted to clarify that I misstated what I was using.

But yeah, certainly don't ever try either, cause you'll end up crushed and dead with broken blocks, like me.

did anyone pick up on the sarcasm there, cause I was layin it on PRETTY thick
And here I thought I wasn't going to argue about this
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Originally Posted by DirtyJohn
But yeah, certainly don't ever try either, cause you'll end up crushed and dead with broken blocks, like me.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyJohn
did anyone pick up on the sarcasm there, cause I was layin it on PRETTY thick And here I thought I wasn't going to argue about this
This thread is making me laugh....

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