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Old May 26, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Question Which headers?

I was going to buy Pacesetter coated longtubes, but now I have the opportunity to buy Hooker Super Comps Coated from someone for only $400 and they are brand new. Which ones should I get? Also will they both fit with the TSP true dual system?
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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Hooker! I have them and love them
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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+ 1 for the Hookers

I have jet hots, which are the same design as the hookers, and the fit well with my tsp true duals
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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If the Hookers were the regular Comps I would say it doesn't matter but a set of Super Comps for $400 is a great deal. On the other hand $400 is a little high for the Pacesetters.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Go to Byunspeeds website and order the headers and a y, its costing me just under 500 for the complete package.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Hookers..I love them..I love my Hookers
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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I would get Hookers...{as I have done in the past..!!! ]
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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So nobody with Pacesetters has any good things to say about them? I have heard good things about them. You can get the Pacesetter longtubes and offroad Y pipe from TSP for $480. Pacesetter owners post up, lets hear what you think.
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i have the pacesetters with the catted y. i havent had any problems with them. theyre a great product for the money which is why i got them.
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Just installed my stainless steel Hookers. Nothing beats a good hooker.
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Let me know if you would like to go stainless for $450 for the headers or $550 for the headers and Y Also Free shipping.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by black2002ws6
Let me know if you would like to go stainless for $450 for the headers or $550 for the headers and Y Also Free shipping.
Id do that before I went with either of the above. No rust issues and they look sweet!
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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yeah i would do that offer before either of the non-stainless headers too.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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Go to texas-speed.com for the pacesetters, that should help you make your decision fairly quickly.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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I have the Pacesetters, no problems and you will get the same results.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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+1 for hooker LTs ;D
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Hookers will make more power over Pacesetters. I just saw a dyno chart and the Hooker super comps made the exact same power throughout the entire curve as 1 3/4 -> 1 7/8 stepped Edelbrocks, and the Edelbrocks make the Pacesetters look like a toy. I've also seen a dyno of QTP's making 8 rwhp peak and ~30 rwtq @ 3100 rpms over Pacesetters, so I know that Pacesetter longtubes leave power to be had on the table, even on stock internals motors.

Not to mention Pacesetters are Made in Mexico, and while they're decent for the money, if you're able to get Hookers for the same price as Mexican headers, don't pass it up IMO.

Most people on this board will probably vote Pacesetter simply because they're the most popular header due to cost alone, but no one should argue that Hookers are a superior brand and design. If money isn't a factor in the decision, I don't see how anyone can vote Pacesetter without being biased.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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I have coated pacesetters and i like em. If I had your opportunity I would oviously go with the Hookers. Why the hell not???
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
Hookers will make more power over Pacesetters. I just saw a dyno chart and the Hooker super comps made the exact same power throughout the entire curve as 1 3/4 -> 1 7/8 stepped Edelbrocks, and the Edelbrocks make the Pacesetters look like a toy. I've also seen a dyno of QTP's making 8 rwhp peak and ~30 rwtq @ 3100 rpms over Pacesetters, so I know that Pacesetter longtubes leave power to be had on the table, even on stock internals motors.

Not to mention Pacesetters are Made in Mexico, and while they're decent for the money, if you're able to get Hookers for the same price as Mexican headers, don't pass it up IMO.

Most people on this board will probably vote Pacesetter simply because they're the most popular header due to cost alone, but no one should argue that Hookers are a superior brand and design. If money isn't a factor in the decision, I don't see how anyone can vote Pacesetter without being biased.


Do u have any proof to back this up? Or is this just your famous internet heresey???
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ScrapinBye
Do u have any proof to back this up? Or is this just your famous internet heresey???
Uhhh...what do you want proof of? It's pretty well-known that Pacesetters are on the small side of a longtube and do cost you horsepower.

Here's a comparison of QTP vs. Pacesetter, no other changes



Here's what a set of Edelbrocks look like compared to Pacesetters:




You'd think the Pacesetters came in a Happy Meal.

Here's a graph of Edelbrock 1 3/4" stepped to 1 7/8" headers vs. Jethots (which are exactly the same as Hooker's just with a different coating)



No real gains anywhere in the powerband by switching to Edelbrock stepped LT's, and Edelbrocks make Pacesetter look like toys. It's painfully obvious that Pacesetters leave a lot on the table by the QTP graph. This ain't rocket science, it's common sense. You get what you pay for. Pacesetter are good for the price, but they leave a lot on the table. That's why they're bottom of the barrel headers.

This is all well-known information.

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