What do I need to purchase for LT install?
Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
if you check the PCM and diagnostic section of this forum, the bosch 13111's are notorious for being poor performers. they often switch much slower than stock and can cause all kinds of problems for tuners. i was die-hard set on buying bosch 13111's until i started researching them. i learned that just like everything else bosch seems to make, their oxygen sensors are also crap.
because of this, i purchased two 24" O2 extensions from Speed Inc. 3 weeks ago (which still haven't even shipped because they're on backorder and i haven't heard a peep from them btw
). when my stock O2's go bad, i'll either get another set of AC delco's or a set of denso oxygen sensors people rave about. if you need new O2 extensions, the pro's on this forum recommend either AC Delco or Denso.
because of this, i purchased two 24" O2 extensions from Speed Inc. 3 weeks ago (which still haven't even shipped because they're on backorder and i haven't heard a peep from them btw
). when my stock O2's go bad, i'll either get another set of AC delco's or a set of denso oxygen sensors people rave about. if you need new O2 extensions, the pro's on this forum recommend either AC Delco or Denso.
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Originally Posted by Ripper415
yeah i was really close to going with the bosch until i saw a post by you saying they sucked. so i did some intensive research and what you said is true. i'm gonna go with 1 12" and 1 24" extension from ws6store...no backorder
i scoured the tuning forum and i found headache after headache by the guys that actually tune these cars. people constantly complained about the bosch 13111's switching very slowly. people were having all kinds of problems that were cured when they switched back to the stock O2's. the most experienced people say go AC Delco (expensive) or Denso (less expensive). these seem to be the two best O2's according to the pro's. yes, it's a lot less convenient to run the extensions, but it is what it is. personally, i'd rather lose the convenience of the bosch 13111's and get a plug that performs flawlessly. the bosch's also seemed to have a shorter lifespan. there were numerous complaints of them crapping out in a few thousand miles, compared to the tens and tens and tens of thousands of miles the stockers run to.
the pro's scared me away from the bosch's
and thanks for rubbing in the backorder
if i would have known i'd STILL be without my order after NEARLY A MONTH, i would have paid WS6store the extra $15 instead of waiting for Speed Inc. what pisses me off is they haven't sent me a single email/no notification. i called them two friday's ago and they told me they were getting a shipment last week. well guess what, last week came and went and STILL NO SHIPMENT! it's got my plugs, wires, header gaskets, AIR blockoff plates ALL IN LIMBO because of these damn oxygen extensions...and with no feedback to boot it's not the backorder that makes me mad, it's the fact that they haven't even bothered to drop me a line after over 3 weeks of waiting for an order that was supposed to ARRIVE in 2-3 days according to their shipping map. Last edited by ChocoTaco369; Jul 1, 2007 at 10:50 PM.
Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
Soul TKR, just for future reference, it's against forum rules to post links to non-sponsors. just a word of advice, if i were you, i'd edit your post and remove the links. if you don't do it, a mod will. just a friendly warning
links to ebay for parts that LS1tech sponsors carry is also against forum policy.
links to ebay for parts that LS1tech sponsors carry is also against forum policy.
