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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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anybody got the specs on the all-thread rod and nut used to install an underdrive pulley? been trying to search but for some reason its being an ***.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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M16 x 2.0 pitch x ~10.5" (my condensor was out of the car - ymmv)
4 nuts
~3.25" washer stack (or smaller stack with bearing doo-hickey)

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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4 nuts? damn, and some hella-thick washers? seems manageable i guess.

why 4 nuts?
and the stock bolt is around 5" correct? i need enough length on the rod to be short enough to get a socket wrench on there, but long enough to thread a nut on while the pulley isnt all the way seated i guess.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:33 AM
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I do not fully understand the physics behind it, but this is how I did it.
  1. Thread rod in all the way.
  2. Start the pulley by hand
  3. Put washer stack on,
  4. Run nut up to washer stack.
  5. Put 2 nuts back-to-back on end of rod and lock them together.
  6. Keep the rod from turning using the back-to-back nuts while driving the washers and pully forward using the other nut.
  7. The 4th nut is just to hold the washer stack on the rod when you are done.

If you have a thrust bearing, use that in place of some of the washers. Otherwise, use some oil.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:04 AM
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makes perfect sense. use two nuts as jam nuts. genius...
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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should i get a new GM bolt or can i just use any high grade bolt of the same size? is the TTY feature really important?
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Do not reuse stock bolt. I do not use TTY. I replace such bolts with reusable ARP fasteners.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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I'd recommend buying the tool HAWK618 sells on here...it is a very nice quality piece, and used a thrust bearing so you won't have any binding issues while driving the pulley down.

Also, torque to yield bolts are not designed to be used more than once...after something has yielded, technically, it has failed. Either buy a new one from GM, or spring for the ARP bolt, which is more, but is a very, very nice bolt.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
I'd recommend buying the tool HAWK618 sells on here...it is a very nice quality piece, and used a thrust bearing so you won't have any binding issues while driving the pulley down.

Also, torque to yield bolts are not designed to be used more than once...after something has yielded, technically, it has failed. Either buy a new one from GM, or spring for the ARP bolt, which is more, but is a very, very nice bolt.


I rent out a cam swap tool package that includes HAWKS's tool.

Also the ARP will require a 27mm 12pt socket.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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i was asking whether i should get a GM bolt or go to the hardware store and get one.

and it looks like i'll be ordering the tool since out of 3 different hardware stores i cant find metric all-thread and i could only find M16 x 2.0 x 90 bolts. the crank bolt size should be M16 x 2.0 x 103 according to GM.

i'm cant believe i cant find this stuff anywhere.
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Its not common stuff. You can find it online at bolt depot but there are a lot of metric struff that isnt common in stores. I fight it all the time. Something like an 8m 1.25 x45mm cant find in stores. Its not big or small but 45mm is not common they are either 40mm or 50mm. It can be a PIA
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Grease them washers to keep them from binding and make it easier for all to turn.
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Check in the tools forum. There is a guy making tools for pully install/removal for $30 or $40.
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yeah i just saw it, $44.
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yeah i just saw it, $44.
And worth every penny. I'll never install another pulley without it.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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And worth every penny. I'll never install another pulley without it.
seems worth it even if i only use it once, considering i pissed out that much gas just looking for the **** today.
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I have enough left to make up 2 or 3 more tools as I could only by it in 1m lengths. PM me if you are interested in a chunk of it.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS

I rent out a cam swap tool package that includes HAWKS's tool.

Also the ARP will require a 27mm 12pt socket.
i thought it was a 1-13/16" socket
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1 1/16 = ~27mm
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thats right. i just had that number in my head to remember to bring the broken socket back for warranty.
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