Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

98 LS1 vs 99-02 LS1

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 10:29 PM
  #1  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default 98 LS1 vs 99-02 LS1

What is so bad about the 98 LS1's? And to convert to a 99-02 LS1 would I just need the newer wiring harness and PCM and thats it? I am thinkin about buying a 98 LS1 with T56 setup and putting it in my 96. Any help would be appreciated as well as why I should stay away from the 98. It has 103k. Thanks Mike
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:17 PM
  #2  
DSRCAM's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio,Texas
Default

i never had any problems with my 98 in fact i guess i had one of the quick ones... ppl would freak when i told them all i had was a lid and cut out..
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 12:50 AM
  #3  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

hmmm, someone told me the oil pump caused most of them to fail prematurely. If thats the case, i could prob put all new bearings and a ported LS6 oil pump and have no worries rite?
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:14 AM
  #4  
Omega Doom's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,532
Likes: 18
From: DFW,TX
Default

in theory yes but you never know?
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:15 AM
  #5  
ApexVIII's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
From: Modesto
Default

my 98 has 102k on it and runs strong
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:02 AM
  #6  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

i also heard the computer is wacked and has alot of problems, is this all false or is it true. Wanna know before I go and purchase this 98 LS1 setup. Thanks
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:14 AM
  #7  
ls1ws9ta's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
From: orlando fl
Default

The 98's are not wacked. The Computer is a bit more challenging to tune, but it can be done. The knock sensors pull like 4 degrees of timing so changing them to the new ones with the new harness would be best to fix that issue on all cars that were build pre the year of 1998. Also you would need a ls6 intake as the 01-02 cars came with one out of the factory. The oil is something you may want to replace. But mine has 177k with the stock stuff and its still running great.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:26 AM
  #8  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

yea did the research and the 99 is the one with the oil pump problems. The 98 seems to be harder to tune and less flexible and im guessing like you said the knock sensors arent the best. Ill prob go to a 99 harness and pcm later but for now seems good. Think replacing the bearings and maybe the oil pump will help this engine last longer? Thanks
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:30 PM
  #9  
Juicedz28's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Default

Slight problems pcm, 806 casting heads, and intake manifold. Other than that theres not much difference. I wouldn't stay away from a 98. I own one, lol Don't be scared off.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:36 PM
  #10  
98_Formula's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,058
Likes: 0
From: West Seneca, NY
Default

yea there not that different, i talked to a tuner about it and he said tuning a 98 is not much different at all, he said thats way over emphasized at least from his standpoint. i heard some things can be more "fussy" like the knock sensors and such, but i havent had a problem with mine at all.

plus if i remember correctly, 98's were the only fbodys not to be equipped with the "black box" or was that a rumor?
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:44 PM
  #11  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

wat is a black box.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:03 PM
  #12  
DSRCAM's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio,Texas
Default

a black box keep all your data from the last five mins of impact or so i heard.. but yea my z28 is a beauty ive never had any problems with it in fact all my other buddies f bodies are dropping like fllies!!
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:47 PM
  #13  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

hmmmmm .
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:57 PM
  #14  
98_Formula's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,058
Likes: 0
From: West Seneca, NY
Default

Originally Posted by DSRCAM
a black box keep all your data from the last five mins of impact or so i heard.. but yea my z28 is a beauty ive never had any problems with it in fact all my other buddies f bodies are dropping like fllies!!
Yea saves your data so the insurance company can check on it if you make a claim, could be an urban legend tho u never know...
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 07:25 PM
  #15  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

im sure they say its a black box but its actually inside the pcm.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:03 PM
  #16  
simple's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
Default

thought that was only on Vettes?
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:11 PM
  #17  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

no its on all new cars im sure. it can show if you were speeding etc so that they cant do false insurance claims, like "i wasnt speeding"
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:40 PM
  #18  
simple's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
Default

i know what it does and what its for but i thought it was only on the Corvettes during the time the 4th gens were still being built. i know alot of new cars have it but i dont think 4th gens ever had them. i could very well be wrong but i think this info would have been out before...
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:47 PM
  #19  
Mike96z's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

well i know a guy who when his son blew his ls1 camaro he went and checked the black box, said he was speeding, reving too high before it happened, basically saying he was racing, he threw a piston out the side of the car, he went back and checked for holes and the kid had nitrous without his fathers permission. For some reason that set off the black box.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:48 PM
  #20  
simple's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: N. IL
Default

LOL, sounds like some twisted words to me. maybe he had some datalogging software running. but a factory "black box", i'm not to sure about! i am in doubt of this idea on f-bodies!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE