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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Just as the title stats is Jet Hot Coating worth it if you were to get some good quality stainless steel headers (kooks/qtp/arh)? Cosidering it would cost around $250 and being used on a DD with minor bolt ons.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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My coating came off. Next set will be SS and no coating, done and done. Will ceramic lower under hood temps.... never tested it myself so I won't say.
Is it worth the headache, IMO - no.

Is a warranty on the coating worth the teardown to mail them back and reinstall - no.

SS and be done.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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na not worth coating em, should of just bought the coated ones. woulda saved time and money IMO
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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I haven't bought them yet!

I try and do research before any big purchase

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na not worth coating em, should of just bought the coated ones. woulda saved time and money IMO
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Just go stainless and never have to worry about rust!
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Stainless............OR............Coated....only.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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There's no point in coating stainless steel headers. High quality stainless steel like the kind found in good headers like QTP and Kooks have much better heat retaining properties than mild steel or iron, so coating won't do nearly as much for a stainless steel header as it will for a painted mild steel header.

The two benefits of coating the headers are:

1.) Retains heat better inside the header
2.) Makes the header last longer

Since stainless steel retains heat very well and will outlast the car, it's pointless. My guess is you won't see any measurable horsepower from it, and if you do, it'll be one of the poorest hp/dollar ratios you can find.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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had jet hot coated LT's on the lt1 and they rusted pretty bad within a year of dailing driving it, just my experience, ill never spend 300$ on coating again...

Only Stainless Steel for me now...
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Coating helps even stainless headers signifigantly. My experiance has been the reason most people who have issues with coating failing is because it is cheaply done. For instance, Pacesetter only coats their headers on the outside to save money..where if you send a header to Jet Hot, they coat it inside and out. Why is this important? Jet Hot only warranties a coating when it is is done inside and out because the inside coating, prevents the outside from ever getting near that 1300 degree tempature it is rated at. Most manufacturers who sell the headers already coated have it done as cheaply as possible. I have never had a coating failure on a header we have sent through Jet Hot for inside and out coating.

Here is something I posted on another board that may be helpful.

Saying you don't need to coat headers because they are stainless is a massive load of junk. Most of the people who say that do so because they want to sell you a header, and get you out their face. There is no money in coating, and it is a hassle shipping things around, so most companies don't want to be bothered. Even in my own business, it is a PITA for me to manage because of all the headers going to different plants, and the time it adds to orders. Now I have to worry about two tracking numbers for each header, and making sure the coater does not loose the hardware or whatever. That being said, I push the product because I beleive in it, and feel that it makes my customers happier with their product.

Here is what I tell all my customers-

Cast iron is a great insulator. Your stock manifolds do a pretty decent job of keeping exhaust heat inside and not letting it in the engine bay. Stainless steel on the otherhand is much thinner and simply leaches heat in the engine bay. The analogy I use is that an uncoated header is like a garden hose with a million tiny holes in it. Because the hose disipates water through all the tiny holes, the end result is that water comes out the end of the hose slower. An uncoated header is is the same way. Heat leaches out the entire length of the primary, and the end result is that exhaust is less pressurized, and velocity to the collector is slower. This is a bad thing because you want heat, and exhaust to leave the engine as fast as possible. Also, the quicker exhaust gas leaves the cylinder head, the quicker new air can replace it. If you coat a header, it seals all the "holes" that exhaust gas "leaks" out (going back to the hose analogy). With no where to go, the hot exhaust gasses become highly pressurized and leaves the engine much faster. As it leaves, it creates a vacum effect that pulls the next pulse of air into the cylinder header, which will actually makes your engine breath much easier.

Now you understand why I chuckle when someone says there is no need to coat a stainless header because it will not rust. Coating has performance gains that IMO take precedence over any corrosion/looks advantage. I am personally a firm believer in coating, and run it on every car with headers we have owned. One thing to note is that if you plan on FI, or Nitrous, you are much better off selecting Jet Hot Extreme Sterling, Jet Hot 2000, or PM-FL 2000 degree coating. Jet Hot 1300 will live fine on most nitrous, and supercharged cars..there is always the possiblity. I have sold hundreds (maybe thousands) of coated headers, and have only had three customers have a waranty claim on the 1300 coating. One guy had a shitty leaned out tune (which will ruin any coating), and the other two were supercharged, and running pulleys. Now that Extreme Sterling is out, Jet Hot recommends the Extreme Sterling for FI, and nitrous apps.
We offer the option to have Jet Hot coating on most of the headers we sell-
http://marylandspeed.com/ls1-fbody-1...-c-49_152.html
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Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed
Coating helps even stainless headers signifigantly. My experiance has been the reason most people who have issues with coating failing is because it is cheaply done. For instance, Pacesetter only coats their headers on the outside to save money..where if you send a header to Jet Hot, they coat it inside and out. Why is this important? Jet Hot only warranties a coating when it is is done inside and out because the inside coating, prevents the outside from ever getting near that 1300 degree tempature it is rated at. Most manufacturers who sell the headers already coated have it done as cheaply as possible. I have never had a coating failure on a header we have sent through Jet Hot for inside and out coating.

Here is something I posted on another board that may be helpful.



We offer the option to have Jet Hot coating on most of the headers we sell-
http://marylandspeed.com/ls1-fbody-1...-c-49_152.html
I mean no disrepect, but I have three sets of Jet Hot Headers and Y-pipes that have been on the cars no longer than 3 months that are showing surface rust. These pieces were coated INSIDE AND OUTSIDE by Jet Hot. So you are seriously telling me that you've never had any trouble with the coating coming off, but I have THREE examples that are on their way to doing just that right now?

I re-read the entire thread. The OP asked about coating a good set of STAINLESS STEEL Headers. I missed that when I read it last night at like 2AM. My Jet Hots are not SS, so I'm not so sure they apply to the topic of this thread. Sorry to stir it up...

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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I got mine coated and they look great and reduce underhood temps, helps saving the paint on your hood too. To me its worth it and it makes them look nice.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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I've had my Jet Hot headers on my car for 4 1/2 years now and I only have a little surface rust on the collectors. The rest of the header looks great! So I dont know if it is worth it too you but I can tell you I will look awesome and will last.
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Originally Posted by Flawless02SS
I've had my Jet Hot headers on my car for 4 1/2 years now and I only have a little surface rust on the collectors. The rest of the header looks great! So I dont know if it is worth it too you but I can tell you I will look awesome and will last.
I can live with the little surface rust thats on them as of now, provided it doesn't get any worse. That I wouldn't have a problem with. I just can't see how thats going happen when they are showing rust already having been on the cars for so little time and so little driving. I hope you're right.
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Originally Posted by LCplmarine98
I got mine coated and they look great and reduce underhood temps, helps saving the paint on your hood too. To me its worth it and it makes them look nice.
What brand of header did you go with and how long have you had them installed after having them coated?
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I had my turbo headers and downpipe done by jet-hot (their 2000 degree coating) for my 4.3 setup and it made a huge difference in spool time and underhood temps. For a N/A car, not gonna notice as much difference.

BTW I am still using that downpipe with my 6.0L setup, that coating is now about 5 years old and still looks good as new.
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I have some 8 year old jethot headers on my LT1. No problems at all. When I get the SS headers for the LS1 they will be coated also.
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I've had Jet Hot headers for over 6 years and aver 85,000 miles. A little surface rust around the collectors but overall look fine.
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I have some 8 year old jethot headers on my LT1. No problems at all. When I get the SS headers for the LS1 they will be coated also.
Originally Posted by Dal1as
I've had Jet Hot headers for over 6 years and aver 85,000 miles. A little surface rust around the collectors but overall look fine.
Thats great. Maybe I'm jumping the gun and this little bit of surface rust is all the further they will tarnish. I'd be more than satisfied with that. I'm definitely happy with the fitment and performance gains of these headers and Y-pipes. Again, my concern was the short amount of time these headers have been on the cars to be showing any sort of oxidation. Like I said, if this is as bad as they get, I'll have plenty of time to save up for my ARH's before they need to be replaced. Thanks for posting up.
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