yea thats how my wire looks like. I just reused the stock heat shield and pushed it up all the way so that it wasnt touchin the header at all. But u said it still caused it to burn through? wow, that kind of scares me. i might have to find something safer than those heat shields.

 

Wow, that's really weird. I don't even have the spark plug wire heat shields on anymore with my QTP's. Here's what my wires look like:





I'd try to get ahold of them with that picture. Is that also on the driver's side? It seems you had A LOT more trouble with the driver's side header than you should have had, maybe you got one with a slight manufacturing error in it.

 

love my QTPs! i didnt have any trouble at all, mainly b/c i put em on when the new motor went in. so they were already on the motor, with teh tublar k member in place, and they clear everything fine! esp the oil filter!

i dont see how you can say they are a cheap header? when they are made with very good materials, and the welds are fantastic!

 

Choco easy for you to say they went in easy, you paid someone..... How hard is it to open that wallet?

OP, sucks that that was the case. Hopefully my ARHs go in smoothly, but I will have the topend off the car when I am putting them in. Should help a bit. Did you end up with the collector tick?

 

I'd say if you get ahold of them with a picture or not they'll say theres nothing wrong with your headers and you installed them wrong. You gotta love QTP's customer service.

 

no collector tick, thank god. from what i have been reading about these headers, its either a hit or miss. so i might be lucky and get a good set, or u might be unlucky and get a shitty set. it really depends.

 

Depends. Sometimes it's a lot cheaper to "just pay someone" then to take off work. Ever think of that?

I wanted access to a lift. Who says I wasn't part of the install? You have no idea what you're talking about.
QTP's customer service is no worse than anyone else out there. It's a company. You're going to have to be persistent to get what you want. That picture is pretty convincing. All you can do is ask them what you recommend.

 

Then maybe it was your "help" that landed you your fully welded PITA exhaust. Who knows. All I can attest to is that you my friend have one JACKED up exhaust, QTPs or not.

 

my drivers side is 100% perfect fit with the plugs and everything.

the passengers side is the bad area and that primary tube that goes to cylinder 2 is at fault. it was touching the k-member and the plug wire fit is horrible.

the wires are not suppose to touch and when making headers for a regular ls1 fbody that should be a thing to think about when making the header, if they do indeed test fit each header they make I cant see how mine fit and if it did I would like to know what plug and wire they used since I used oem stuff.

yeah that wire was resting so bad that it cooked through in under 400 miles and I was on vacation when it did burn thur and causes SES light misfire and had to fix it by taking off the heat shield and had to buy a whole new set of wires and zip tie it away.

I do remember trying to move the header around with all bolts lose but it barely moved much which should be excepted since it needs to line up with the head ports.

it seems the people who have clearance with the stock wire at cylinder 2 have no problems with it touching the k-member either???

ChocoTaco369 I cant really see cylinder 2 wire in that pic to much, nevermind I got home and can see the pic way clearer than at work. Damn that indeed is quite some room, maybe i need to update to diff. wires.

I had pm'ed QTP, made threads and hinted I kinda wanted something done, but no offers. this was back in early-mid May I believe.

I dont want to be a QTP basher, I just got very frustrated when I had to grind a hole in my k-member (I was using a air die-grinder because thats all i had, wasnt getting anywhere with files), and then when I thought the rest was going to go smoothly I had that last kick in the *** with the wire problem. Even without the heatshield it basically rest on the tube just as hard / bad.

 

omg chocotaco got his QTP's in... the world has ended...

MSD wires can have their boot "bent" in order to prevent any contact with the headers, but needless to say, I had to bend at least 3 boots to ensure no contact. ( I found out later I burnt one on the passenger side, but it didn't go through, just cosmetic damage) I replaced a single one.

The stockers + heat shield don't fit. If I remove the heat shield, they will fit, but it's tight so I prefer my MSD wires.

I have to agree with the above, unless you've installed it yourself, you don't realize how much better these could have been as far as the little details.

 

Umm...my headers have been in for a few months now

I've yet to do a whole thread on them yet. I haven't driven the car enough - I've been away at school so my car's been sitting ever since the header install I'll eventually get pics and videos of it.

 

It looks like QTP process is inconsistent when making headers....some fit better than others, almost like an slp lid haha

 

A lot of it has to do with the tolerances of vehicles. I've seen issues with every header brand from QTP's to Pacesetters to Kooks to Hooker. There is not a longtube header in existence where there hasn't been a bit of modification necessary. There has been cutting and grinding for them all, just like there have been manufacturer defects and inconsistencies with every brand.

As for the SLP lid, you see the most issues because it's by far the most popular, and almost ALL the issues are because people use the smooth bellows/Fernco mod which ruins lid fitment.

If one product sells three times as well as another and you hear twice the complaints, that means that product has a way better track record. I bet SLP's lid outsells all the other brands at least 3 to 1, so if they were manufactured equally well, you should hear 3 times the complaints. The number of complaints are meaningless when they vastly outsell the competition. Same thing goes with QTP's. They're an extremely popular header and have been gaining in popularity a lot lately. There must be a reason behind it. I guess when Kooks and ARH sell a header for $200 more and the gains aren't any better, it's easy to see why QTP's have been gaining in popularity.

 

When I did mine by myself in 2003 I didn't grind or take anything off. Just got the car high on jackstands and it was easy after that. The headers fit awesome --- no rubbing on anything and the wires fit around them great too.

Maybe the later versions don't fit as well as the earlier ones being that the earlier ones were still totally hand-made and the newer ones are not.

 

I had to grind my K-member but that was the only real trouble. That spark plug wire clearance is pretty bad though. It sounds like replacing them with MSDs and bending the boots will be the way to go for your situation.

I hope it all works out.

 

the regular non hvmc qtp hardly had problems, the hvmc's seem to have some more problems.

 

here are the current pics

 

My front two plug wires touch the header on the passenger side unless you bend the MSD boot and twist it on the coil toward the rear. Choco, you post all about the HP gains vs other headers then say it's all about ET in another thread. Not to flame on you, but c'mon man. They aren't perfect and don't make leagues more power than any other longtube out there.

 

I personally don't care about ET's. I've run my car at the track a total of 3 times. I've been to the track a total of 4 times. That equates to less than 1 day at the track per year for me. My car's a daily driver - I care about SOTP feel, sound volume/quality, reliability and fuel economy. Right now, my car's almost exactly where I want it. I just want a little more power and to clean up the sound a bit. In short, mph is much more important than ET's on my slip

If I post about ET's, then it's in a thread regarding ET's. When you're comparing individual mods, it's all about horsepower, not ET's. You want as large a gain all over the curve as possible. QTP's get the job done the best for the best price here out of the stainless headers.

As for "leagues more power," when you're talking about a 5-10 rwhp gain on a stock motor from a simple longtube swap, considering longtubes only make 20-30 rwhp to begin with, that is a HUGE difference. We're talking up to a ~50% gain over lower quality brands.

 

I couldn't handle that at all...