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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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i use a dremel..and

i always use the rough sandpaper bits when i ported my TB and my friends..
then go smoother and smoother then i polish it..

but is there a faster way to do this..like what tool do yall use or wat bits?
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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I forget the exact name of the bit. But I used a small metal bit with "teeth" (looks like a rear end gear set) to get the chunck of the metal out. Just be careful not to take out too much. Then I did the normal sanding wheels and polish.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by black00ssFL
I forget the exact name of the bit. But I used a small metal bit with "teeth" (looks like a rear end gear set) to get the chunck of the metal out. Just be careful not to take out too much. Then I did the normal sanding wheels and polish.
That what I used also. It made the porting ALOT faster.
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ok thanks guys ill try and look for it..

but if anyone has a picture or knows the name that would help out alot
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carbide bit on an air die grinder!!! then progressively finer sanding drums!
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I also used that bit that had "teeth". To finish it up, I used sanding drums at a high speed and it worked great.
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Why not just take handfuls of sand when the car is running and throw it in the TB while pushing back on the throttle? Kind of like a sand blast port? It worked for some kids on the honda forums.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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A carbide bit with some lube to keep the aluminum from plugging up the bit and a 120 grit cartrige roll is what I use. You dont want to polish the surface slick, a fine sanded surface has proven to be better for air flow.

I also remove approx. half the thickness of the shaft on each side of the blade to further improve flow.

Here is a picture of the last one I did, you can barely see the throttle shaft.
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hey Jeremiah, im from ardmore oklahoma, any chance I could get you to port my TB?
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Looks like you could of taken alot more off.
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i dont understand how a fine sanded surface would be better flowing than a polished surface..

not saying ur wrong i just would like to know how..and why?
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Originally Posted by jessedale98
Why not just take handfuls of sand when the car is running and throw it in the TB while pushing back on the throttle? Kind of like a sand blast port? It worked for some kids on the honda forums.
Didnt they do that on an Audi TT? Dumbasses lol
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Originally Posted by Jeremiah
You dont want to polish the surface slick, a fine sanded surface has proven to be better for air flow.
We're not talking about heads here on carbed engines where fuel atomization is critical. In this case, the smoother the better, although there's not going to be a significant difference between a fine sanded surface and really polished when it comes to these throttle bodies.

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Looks like you could of taken alot more off.
He could have.

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i dont understand how a fine sanded surface would be better flowing than a polished surface..

not saying ur wrong i just would like to know how..and why?
I can explain the instance where it DOES make sense, it's just not in a throttle body application, and it's not really talking about actual flow, but rather results.

On a carbed application, where the fuel isn't sprayed as finely as an injector does, the intake ports of the heads are needed to be a bit more "rough" to help "stir" the air/fuel mixture up to help with atomization for the combustion process. It makes for a more efficient burn of the a/f mixture.

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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
We're not talking about heads here on carbed engines where fuel atomization is critical. In this case, the smoother the better, although there's not going to be a significant difference between a fine sanded surface and really polished when it comes to these throttle bodies.


He could have.



I can explain the instance where it DOES make sense, it's just not in a throttle body application, and it's not really talking about actual flow, but rather results.

On a carbed application, where the fuel isn't sprayed as finely as an injector does, the intake runners are needed to be a bit more "rough" to help "stir" the air/fuel mixture up to help with atomization for the combustion process. It makes for a more efficient burn of the a/f mixture.

thank you for explaining that...that makes sense..

but i was thinking for airflow..the smoother the better..and i understand it wouldnt be much of a difference at all but it sure looks nice
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Im not the air flow wiz by no means but I have heard from a few people that a fine sanded surface retains a layer of air molecules where a polished surface does not. Air flows better over this layer of air than it does a polished metallic surface. Ither way in my oppinion its a waist of time and wouldnt be make a measurable difference in power.

Yes, I know a little about fuel atomization and puddling, it has nothing to do with the fuel side of things, only air flow/delivery.

Yes, I could have gone hog wild on the throttle body, I spent a total of approx. 30 minutes between two break periods at work on the one pictured.

Would it have made any more power if I spent more time on it.. probably not.
Would it have sold for more money if I spent more time on it.. probably not.
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